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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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Timberwolf said:
If you look at the squad, who are the genuine example setters and leaders we have left? For years it was Son, Kane and Lloris - and people questioned their lack of killer instinct and natural leadership at times - but at least they were the most consummate, hardworking professionals imaginable who would've kept a certain standard in training and level of expectation.

Romero obviously has some kind of aura about him from the World Cup and the players respect him, but he's never been a reliable example on the pitch for us and his English is iffy at best. Beyond him, who is there? Arguably the next best natural leaders are Maddison and Kulusevski and they're not involved. VdV and Vicario...meh. Palhinha maybe? Tricky when he's a loanee.

Everyone's either a bit too young and nice or aloof and uncaring. I imagine they all get along pretty well but is there that real deep sense of unity and collective demanding the highest standards? I think we had some of that for a little while under Ange and Conte (and Poch of course) but right now I don't see it at all.

You hear that cunt John Terry talk about the peak years at Chelsea how they'd basically test every new signing cos their standards and expectations were so high - you had to fight to survive. We're lightyears from that right now.
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It should be Palhinha - but won’t, for obvious reasons (loan, doesn’t play every week, limited skill set). Best mindset of the current bunch probably.
 
Hoddle2Waddle said:
Just gave it a thought.

He is over 50 and just got his biggest job. He spent his coaching life within the mediocre circles and no one knocked his door. Until, of course, Mr Levy and ENIC came in.

If you spend your entire career at a certain level, no one will expect more from you and retire that way. Only delusional incompetent losers would be giving him a look.

That's the type of ownership we've been suffering under all these years folks. Mediocre for-ever losers. Nothing will change in this club until ENIC and the Lewis Family are gone.
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Talk about smacking the nail firmly on the head! 🔨

Top, top post, mate 🥉🥉
 
THFCxDUFC said:
We need to play our part in getting this cunt out the club. More or less every single one of can see he’s not the right man for us in a month of Sundays.

I hate Celtic and everything their club stands for up here. But I was at the game the other night as my team, Dundee United beat them 2-1 at Tannadice, and watched their fans harass their board for 90 minutes, and as soon as we got scored the equaliser they were chanting “Nancy get to fuck” and “Martin O’Neill” for the rest of the game.

That was the 4th game of their manager’s reign, and his 4th defeat. He’s a dead man walking there already, the fans can see that a million miles away, so what’s the point in prolonging things any further? I felt sorry for the bloke watching him walk towards the tunnel at full time looking shellshocked, but he’s the wrong guy in the wrong movie. Sound familiar?

Another point I’d like to add to that, is Celtic have won probably 90% of all trophies in Scotland in the last 15 years, 1 bad season (in which they’re still second, 6 points and a game in hand, behind the league leaders) and their fans have stormed their club’s AGM demanding answers and have hounded their chairman out of the club. Unless the Lewis family change the habit of a lifetime and start treating Tottenham like a football club rather than a cash cow very soon, then we should start ramping up the pressure on them to get to fuck as well.
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I've always been intrigued by the Dundee rivalry up there.
How's it split? Is it like certain areas are United and others DFC. Is there an element of religious upbringing that influences peoples allegiance. Are both clubs roughly equally supported. Or do some people watch both clubs?
 
Harrier said:
Is it coaching though or the players failing to put in enough effort for whatever reason?

I find it all a bit bewildering as I never watched Brentford play and think they looked poorly coached.

I think this goes far deeper than the manager and there seems to be a general malaise that has permeated throughout the club. I really fear we may not break this until there is a total change in ownership.
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Brentford is a completely different club to Tottenham. Just because his ideas were effective there doesn’t mean they will translate here, it was the same with Nuno. Clearly a decent manager but not the right fit for a club that expects to play progressive football.

But no doubt the fundamental problem is a lack of football vision and knowledge at the higher levels of the club. That’s how you end up spending hundreds of millions on average players and hiring managers that can’t do the job.

I sympathise with Frank on the lack of quality available to him but as has been mentioned above, when your players spend so much time pointing, standing still, hesitating, there’s clearly something seriously wrong. It shouldn’t be this hard to get out of our half but we make it look impossible.
 
StripiestPilot said:
Brentford is a completely different club to Tottenham. Just because his ideas were effective there doesn’t mean they will translate here, it was the same with Nuno. Clearly a decent manager but not the right fit for a club that expects to play progressive football.

But no doubt the fundamental problem is a lack of football vision and knowledge at the higher levels of the club. That’s how you end up spending hundreds of millions on average players and hiring managers that can’t do the job.

I sympathise with Frank on the lack of quality available to him but as has been mentioned above, when your players spend so much time pointing, standing still, hesitating, there’s clearly something seriously wrong. It shouldn’t be this hard to get out of our half but we make it look impossible.
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Yeah not much I can disagree with there, but for those calling for Frank’s head I can see us being in exactly the same place a number of weeks after the next guy gets parachuted in.
 
4 points from last 5 games. Teams who were all below us when the run began.

See if we can get 8 points from the next 10 games. Probably be on course to finish 17th.

Which would be ironic.
 
Contrast said:
This is the issue. So many people over hype some of the dross we have.

I don’t know what it’s founded upon.

Van de Ven is the only one I would say is good enough for a Top 6 side. Romero has his days, but too many like yesterday.
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There are 3 things that are not even up for debate, imv

1) We do have top 6 revenues and turnover

2) We don't have a top 6 squad

3) We don't have a top 6 manager
 
Biggest issue is that I just don’t see what he is trying to do? Doesn’t have a solid formation, doesn’t have defined roles or a way to play.

That last 10 minutes today was just the players trying to go for it off their own backs.

I think he gets the season given slim pickings of manager in Jan. But lose against palace and the noise to fire him will be deafening.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Journalists on Sunday supplement said similar this morning. A set of players with questionable characters including the captain who can’t behave like he did and sets the wrong example.

They also said they don’t see Frank improving the team but that it is a sub standard squad which needs a lot of work.

Was a good summary of basically what we have all been saying on here for weeks but it was good to hear it echoed by people not fans of the club.

A club in the shit basically.
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They are wrong.
 
Harrier said:
Yeah not much I can disagree with there, but for those calling for Frank’s head I can see us being in exactly the same place a number of weeks after the next guy gets parachuted in.
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I think a different manager could at least bring a style of football and a personality that suits us. The players clearly do not understand or enjoy what they are being asked to do.

Frank is a nice man but he’s very Danish, a bit too honest and not much of an ego. I’m not sure that’s what’s required to whip the club into shape. Ange was a football moron but he was a big character. As time goes on Frank is seeming more and more like Nuno, I don’t think he has the tools to do the job.
 
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