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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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Fuck Frank.

Give it to McKenna or Thiago Motta til the end of the season, with a 2-3 year contract up for grabs if they get us in the top 5-6 playing good, exciting football.

Inigo Perez, Sebastian Hoeness...even the legend Raul...I'd keep an eye on these guys.
 
This argument will never end. You just see how defensive his bench was last night and how defensive he started the first XI to know there wasn't any creativity and attacking implementation in his mind at all. All the while letting Brennan go AND considering Tel to go on loan. Mind-blowing...

His comments last night was the final nail in the coffin for me. I want him gone but I can accept hes had a tough start due to important players getting injured and the summer signings were acts of desperation except kudus.

Shite under ange and now frank. Players stopped playing for top coaches like jose and conte and they were never truly backed. Like I said the people running the club have ruined it since the poch left.
 
We can change manager yet again (and I'm really tempted to pull that trigger) but until we get the answer as to how Spurs consistently assemble squads with incredibly poor mentality then history will simply repeat itself. Over the last 10 or so years we have tried every single kind of manager. The situation needs more than bringing a new bloke in.
 
I was willing to give Frank the benefit of the doubt with the shite players he has at his disposal; missing Solanke, Kulusevski and Maddison with Son also going has obviously had a massive impact on our attacking play. Unfortunately though, everything I have seen from his setup and gameplan with the underwhelming options he does have at his disposal is absolutely that of a sunday league team.

The hoofball, hit and hope, win duels and cross over and over shit is just pathetic. There is no nuance to that play. We are unable to progress the ball in any sophisticated manner, and what is worse it looks like we have actually abandoned trying to play through a team, in favour of just hitting long and hoping that Richarlison the human trampoline can bounce it on to another Spurs shirt.

Defensively it's not even worth the hit we have taken to our attack, as most games we look very likely to concede at any given moment. If we were looking like a well drilled and unbeatable back line then fine, try and sit and soak, but that's not us either. Our centre backs are not great box defenders, they are open field defenders. We don't have any sort of real counter-attacking threat either as our players are either not fast enough (Richy/Odobert/Xavi) or not smart enough (Kudus) to produce a counter attack of any note. The tactics are mismatched.

All in all I can't continue to have faith that Frank is just going to magically amend this mess if he has one or two extra players recruited or come back from injury. If the guy can't play any sort of coherent football with the current group of players then it's sure as shit not going to turn into Champions League quality if we have Kulusevski or Dom Solanke come back. We are far too far off it.
Pretty much where i'm at. You can sort of see the point that we are keeping things tight as we are so devoid in the front 4 and even passers in central midfield. This team is not capable of scoring 2 or 3 against all but the real dregs. But we're showing nothing, this is George Graham level stuff, only not as strong defensively. I just cant see, even with better players that we will be competitive under this manager in 12 months time so whats the point? To me it now feels like he's a caretaker manager and we're just waiting for something to happen. Have to say though whoever comes in is still going to need to clearout pretty much every attacking player we have as they wouldnt attract interest from any top 8 side.
 
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Pointless trying to be rational now. The chaos munchers want another manager sacked after 6 months without our best attackers. The football is shit but yesterday really isn’t one to complain about.

I suspect we’ll lose to Sunderland though at the weekend, they look like the kind of team that would beat most spurs teams at home (remember Stoke under Pulis but with a bit more about them). So that will be fun on the internet afterwards! Had we lost one of the last two and then that I think he’d be gone but I still see this Sunderland game as pivotal for him internally and externally.
Chaos munchers? Harsh.

I want him gone today. I think he’s useless. Doesn’t mean I want chaos. I’ve spent years on here defending managers until the death, did it with the last guy too. Stability is the way forward and that’s been proven over and over again. Disregarding Chelsea, every other successful side has had stability.

But it has to be with someone who shows something. Anything. Any improvement. And having more clean sheets and conceding a few less goals with a pretty consistently fit back five and a DM in front of them isn’t enough.

Sunderland have lost half their team to AFCON. we shouldn’t be considering not beating them, but are almost expecting defeat. It’s not good enough man.

He needs to go. And quickly. If it causes chaos, so be it, but it’ll also cause hope. I have none of that right now.
 
If the board are serious they need to be speaking to Maresca this morning and if there is any indication that he wants the job they need to be getting down to the training ground with an empty box and asking Thomas to pack his stuff and fuck off.
 
Chaos munchers? Harsh.

I want him gone today. I think he’s useless. Doesn’t mean I want chaos. I’ve spent years on here defending managers until the death, did it with the last guy too. Stability is the way forward and that’s been proven over and over again. Disregarding Chelsea, every other successful side has had stability.

But it has to be with someone who shows something. Anything. Any improvement. And having more clean sheets and conceding a few less goals with a pretty consistently fit back five and a DM in front of them isn’t enough.

Sunderland have lost half their team to AFCON. we shouldn’t be considering not beating them, but are almost expecting defeat. It’s not good enough man.

He needs to go. And quickly. If it causes chaos, so be it, but it’ll also cause hope. I have none of that right now.
The last sentence is spot on... give me hope and chaos over what we have right now...
 
We can change manager yet again (and I'm really tempted to pull that trigger) but until we get the answer as to how Spurs consistently assemble squads with incredibly poor mentality then history will simply repeat itself. Over the last 10 or so years we have tried every single kind of manager. The situation needs more than bringing a new bloke in.
That is a really simple question... I am surprised you don't know the answer...
 
Maybe don't start 7 defensive players then you Mug!!! :frankfacepalm: ( Him not you)

This whole "7 defensive players" thing doesn't even make sense though.

Most, if not all, of that back four are not really 'defensive players'. No one would bat an eye if micky or romero were in a midfield position.

It seems to be more of an argument about CM, but Sarr is away, Bergvall had a knock, Xavi is banned. Who else is going to play there?

Gray was basically playing AM, so it's not like we set up with 3 DMs
 
Gameweek 19 2024/25
Spurs
11th
W7 D3 L9
F 41
A 28
GD +13

Brentford
12th
W7 D3 L9
F 33
A 35
GD -2



Gameweek 19 2025/26
Spurs
12th
W7 D5 L7
F 27
A 23
GD +4

Brentford
9th
W8 D3 L8
F 28
A 26
GD +2

Spurs: Were in an utter shambles under Ange. Just a different shambles now.

Brentford: Lost their three best players and have a complete rookie manager, doing just as well as with Frank.

Lets no pretend Spurs are any better off with Frank in, or Brentford are any worse off without him
 
I just took a browse through the early pages of the various Frank threads The amount of people that convinced themselves that this was a good appointment is staggering beyond belief.

It was clear and obvious from day 1 that Thomas Frank was as uninspiring, anti-Spurs. anti-ambition as you could get.

Nuno without the beard.

Really, guys. You'd all save yourselves a lot of pain and u-turning if you just listened to John more often.
 
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Chaos munchers? Harsh.

I want him gone today. I think he’s useless. Doesn’t mean I want chaos. I’ve spent years on here defending managers until the death, did it with the last guy too. Stability is the way forward and that’s been proven over and over again. Disregarding Chelsea, every other successful side has had stability.

But it has to be with someone who shows something. Anything. Any improvement. And having more clean sheets and conceding a few less goals with a pretty consistently fit back five and a DM in front of them isn’t enough.

Sunderland have lost half their team to AFCON. we shouldn’t be considering not beating them, but are almost expecting defeat. It’s not good enough man.

He needs to go. And quickly. If it causes chaos, so be it, but it’ll also cause hope. I have none of that right now.

Well, there’s nobody out there right now worth changing for. In the summer sure. But giving a new bloke a three year contract now means we miss out on better managers then. But you know that, and I suspect the club does too, and that’s why nothing will happen till then.
 
Frank doesn't know who his best players are at each position. He doesn't seem to be able to recognize when certain combinations are working better than others. He doesn't seem to have a coherent vision on how to use our young talent, or how they should be developed.

I can't see him fixing any of this either. I really hope the board/exec don't plan to give him significant funds to spend, though he needs it.

Seems like we are going to drift around this level for awhile, while something percolates around in the backroom with the exec and board. Feels like we're in the doldrums like in the AVB/Sherwood era.
I hope he is backed in Jan as long as recruitment don't again fuck things up. We desperately need better players irrespective of who the coach is. The whole "wrong players" thing is generally overdone. If he gets top 8 then IMO he deserves another season, but if not, sack him in the summer (assuming we don't somehow win a cup).
 
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