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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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Spot on. If anything that 2nd half is even more detrimental to Frank because it shows what this squad is capable of, but he isn't unlocking it at all.

There are clearly more gears in the squad that like you say are not being tapped into. Why only play like that when we are 2 nil down? why not start the game like that? It's all on the manager.

The tactics, the style of play, it's fucking shit. Results and performances appalling.

It's Frank.
Yep, I've majorly blamed the players for a long time and it is still partly on them.

But it's Frank's job to get a tune out of them and he has failed miserably. Failed rather than failing because there is no way back. Been too shit for too long.
 
I'd love to know what was said at HT. The team have been shit for months with no cohesion. Frank has a glimmer of a chance to take advantage of that 2nd half and take the handbrake off permanently.
He just put Odobert close to Xavi in the middle and right wing was Porro's only. And suddenly we were able to make some quick short passes in the middle so Villa had to sit back a little.

Ofc after subs we went back to usual shit when Simons didnt have anyone to play short.
 
If that was the case, how did he get that second half out of them after his team-talk at halftime?

I'm not against criticism, but don't be disingenuous.

Maybe. I hope so…

But why didn’t he give that team talk before?

We’re halfway through the season and been tepid the whole season.

Best case scenario imo is Frank told them to go chaos tempo because he’s given up trying to get them to play his controlled, analytical way.
 
Spot on. If anything that 2nd half is even more detrimental to Frank because it shows what this squad is capable of, but he isn't unlocking it at all.

There are clearly more gears in the squad that like you say are not being tapped into. Why only play like that when we are 2 nil down? why not start the game like that? It's all on the manager.

The tactics, the style of play, it's fucking shit. Results and performances appalling.

It's Frank.

That’s up to the players then isn’t it?

They need to show some fucking guts and desire all the time but they don’t want to. I’ve been banging on for weeks, their attitudes are fucking shocking. The manager isn’t telling them to go out there and not attack, that’s bollocks. He might not be able to set up the team to, which is different. I still think it’s attitude. Guess we’ll have to wait and see if they do it to the third manager in a row.
 
My breaking point was Fulham. That was much earlier in a manager's tenure than I would normally lose faith. It was the lack of courage and lack of a discernible ethos that convinced me then. We can, and must, have someone better.

Mine was forest. When he brought on 3 defensive subs when 2-0 down.
Knew at that point it's a waste him being here no matter what players get brought in.

He's a cowardly at the core , will never win a thing with him in charge . Bottling the super cup in a handful of minutes should've been a red flag
 
That’s up to the players then isn’t it?

They need to show some fucking guts and desire all the time but they don’t want to. I’ve been banging on for weeks, their attitudes are fucking shocking. The manager isn’t telling them to go out there and not attack, that’s bollocks. He might not be able to set up the team to, which is different. I still think it’s attitude. Guess we’ll have to wait and see if they do it to the third manager in a row.

This group of players have largely had two managers, Ange and Frank and they are both fucking shite.

We need to hire the right manager. Just look at the same players under Gerrard and Emery
 
There’s no plan is there. Going forward we just look like it’s all off the cuff. Villa know where all their players are all the time and the system is the key. We are nothing like that.

Off the cuff is fine. It’s how we played under Harry a lot. First half players held their positions so there was no movement when we had the ball, soon as the shackles got lifted Odobert Tel and Xavi started interchanging and we looked good.

Either we play off the cuff like Redknapp and give our attackers freedom or we put our players in an attacking structure. What Frank does is similar to Jose and Nuno which is to keep the players in a defensive structure when they have the ball thus we have no creativity. When we have the ball our players mark space/playes instead of look for free space.

That is coached. The reason I believe is if you are in a defensive structure when you have the ball you can’t get caught in transition when you lose the ball so it’s all about not conceding from losing the ball. Problem is it means you have little creativity.
 
If you think about it though, if that's right, his solution is "play a way I can't coach/direct"

There's no version of how that second half happened that looks good for him

I mean, we don’t know he can’t coach it but it did highlight exactly how bad the plan before that was for this squad.

Out of nowhere, Tel, Odobert, Xavi, even Muani looked on it. Gray and Palinha overrunning their midfield…

We were still very lucky not to concede a 3rd on the break though. Porro off the line etc
 
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