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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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postbox said:

View: https://x.com/i/status/2010094316610564529

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Well Frank, why did you not play like that in the first half then?
 
postbox said:
Problem with that is - is Frank the one to get these players to their potential levels?

Or will he nerf that development?
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Yeah agree. Probably not.

Maybe over time he can turn these 30 minute flashes into 60 minute performances.

Then in 18 months when the players are on the cusp of being actually good, we bring in a manager who can see there’s something to work with who plays actual football.
 
BJK said:
He has been ceding possession heavily recently, starting with the game where he allowed Palace 62 percent: A team that average just 43.

Brentford a few days later had 56 despite averaging only 46, and Sunderland a few days after that also had 51 despite averaging 42. That's certainly a brave strategy for a Spurs manager to resort to for consecutive games, but I'm not going to get into that.

My question is rather this: What's the point of ceding possession, defending this deep and with this many men if you're going to allow the opponent to force the ball right into the heart of your defense at will anyway?

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This is not a one-off incident: We had a similar embarrassing display against Woolwich too remember, where they carved us wide open despite Frank using an unprecedented 5-2-3 solely to shut up shop.

Not good at all.
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i didn't watch today but this is more of the same for me. players standing around on their heels like training cones or casually jogging back as opposing players run by them. really pathetic stuff and plenty of blame to go around top to bottom.
 
LeParisien said:
Yeah agree. Probably not.

Maybe over time he can turn these 30 minute flashes into 60 minute performances.

Then in 18 months when the players are on the cusp of being actually good, we bring in a manager who can see there’s something to work with who plays actual football.
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Problem with that is, could a different manager do a better job?!

Edit: not trying to be argumentative, it's just playing with your idea here - there's just no version where Frank is the answer, imo
 
LeParisien said:
With Frank saying everyone at the club is aligned…

Here is the most optimistic take…

I think they’re looking at Woolwich in the early days under Arteta and thinking … let’s tolerate a couple of shit seasons and keep recruiting and playing young players. If we get past this season then next year will be a little better. And in two seasons we’ll actually have a good team. There are some very high ceiling players who are 5 years off being excellent and will be good Prem players sooner - Vuskovic, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert, Tel, Moore, Souza hopefully… almost none of our players are in their prime age.

There’s no way for us to buy success sooner so play the long game.

Not saying it will work but have to take what we can right now
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I also believe this to be the plan (or the initial one at least) I don’t think anyone, us included, thought Frank would be so inept.
 
LeParisien said:
With Frank saying everyone at the club is aligned…

Here is the most optimistic take…

I think they’re looking at Woolwich in the early days under Arteta and thinking … let’s tolerate a couple of shit seasons and keep recruiting and playing young players. If we get past this season then next year will be a little better. And in two seasons we’ll actually have a good team. There are some very high ceiling players who are 5 years off being excellent and will be good Prem players sooner - Vuskovic, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert, Tel, Moore, Souza hopefully… almost none of our players are in their prime age.

There’s no way for us to buy success sooner so play the long game.

Not saying it will work but have to take what we can right now
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You look at the current squad and you've got some building blocks (van de vyn, simons, romero, odobert, tell, moore) who have a lot of good football ahead of them. The front office has obviously decided to go for a rebuild and not bring in Premier League ready players anytime soon. The manager they have is suited, by his history, to developing that young core group. Where it is not coming together is the injuries and the team not being honest with fans about lies ahead. It's arguably a reasonable way to go and lurching off in some other direction only makes sense if you're willing to throw a huge sum of money at your problems and bring in a world class manager. The second half of the season will be better than the first, but it will be a step forward and not a leap.
 
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