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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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TomHotspur said:
Ange had massive flaws and was ultimately a poor appointment, but a hill that I will die on is that I believe if he had been properly backed in his second summer window, if he had been given a proper number 6 and a couple of proper top class wingers/wide forwards, the mess that unfolded in the league last season would not have happened.

In the early part of 24/25 we were actually playing some excellent football. I particularly recall the NLD where we played Woolwich off the park and lost to a sucker punch goal from that prick Gabriel. The performance was absolutely light years away from the absolute muck we saw in this seasons NLD.
We played a lot of games in the early part of last season where we lost by 1 goal despite dominating the game and where if we had some competent attackers, we would have been 2/3 goals up by the time the opposition had scored.
But alas as the months went by and the injuries mounted, it all quickly fell apart and the rest is history.

We were bad last season, of that there is no doubt. But make no mistake, we are on a different stratosphere of levels of shit this season under Frank. The guy is so, so far out of his depth it’s actually painful to watch, and the mugs who put him there are so blind by their arrogance/ineptitude that I genuinely don’t see them getting rid of him.

It is honestly a crisis of the highest calibre, and I don’t see an end to it in sight.
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Ange wanted and bought: Johnson, Solanke and Gray . So was his fault we don't have top class wingers
 
TomHotspur said:
Ange had massive flaws and was ultimately a poor appointment, but a hill that I will die on is that I believe if he had been properly backed in his second summer window, if he had been given a proper number 6 and a couple of proper top class wingers/wide forwards, the mess that unfolded in the league last season would not have happened.

In the early part of 24/25 we were actually playing some excellent football. I particularly recall the NLD where we played Woolwich off the park and lost to a sucker punch goal from that prick Gabriel. The performance was absolutely light years away from the absolute muck we saw in this seasons NLD.
We played a lot of games in the early part of last season where we lost by 1 goal despite dominating the game and where if we had some competent attackers, we would have been 2/3 goals up by the time the opposition had scored.
But alas as the months went by and the injuries mounted, it all quickly fell apart and the rest is history.

We were bad last season, of that there is no doubt. But make no mistake, we are on a different stratosphere of levels of shit this season under Frank. The guy is so, so far out of his depth it’s actually painful to watch, and the mugs who put him there are so blind by their arrogance/ineptitude that I genuinely don’t see them getting rid of him.

It is honestly a crisis of the highest calibre, and I don’t see an end to it in sight.
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Indeed. I would encourage any of the Ange doubters to go back and watch that NLD and see how we played Arse off the park with excellent football. Ange needed backing
 
Kid Chameleon said:
I think Hojbjerg was a bigger loss than many people realise. He was an experienced midfielder that we were able to bring on to absorb pressing from the other team and hold on to results. It wasn't anything spectacular but it was enough to turn defeats into draws and draws into wins and it was ultimately the difference between finishing 5th and finishing 17th.

Archie Gray is a promising talent but he's a long way short of being an experienced midfielder. I understand why Hojbjerg had to leave but the club made a huge mistake in not replacing him with equivalent experience.
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Yeah I do think that, for all their flaws, we grossly underestimate the loss of 4-5 experienced PL players in Hojbjerg, Royal, Lo Celso, Perisic... hell even Skipp.

It's not so much their quality, but rather a base level of experience they provided.

Bergvall took months to properly get into the team, Gray ended up playing constantly out of position and Odobert got injured instantly (and still hasn't shown enough).

We shifted our entire recruitment model to teenagers overnight without adequately providing the quality nor depth the squad needed to function across multiple competitions. Signing 3 kids and Solanke was rank incompetence from Lange/Levy given what we were going into Europe.

At the time we were all glad to see the back of the deadwood, but in reality we were setting ourselves, and Ange, up for a fall.

I still have big questions marks around Ange - early last season when you say we were playing great we still looked extremely vulnerable in most games. That first game of the season against Leicester was a perfect summary - some great football ultimately crumbling due to flaws in our system and teams preying on our weaknesses. We had such a soft underbelly under Ange unless absolutely everything clicked. But I do think he got hung out to dry last season by our terrible squad building and planning.
 
20 minutes of chaotic, frantic football shouldn't gloss over the first half. Once again, at home, we were playing not to lose. The problem for Frank is you can do that for survival in the PL like Brentford, but in cups there is no second chance. He has to go.
 
SpurFromOz said:
20 minutes of chaotic, frantic football shouldn't gloss over the first half. Once again, at home, we were playing not to lose. The problem for Frank is you can do that for survival in the PL like Brentford, but in cups there is no second chance. He has to go.
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I almost got the impression that the players came out thought “fuck it, we’re losing anyway, but let’s just do what we want out there, and screw this guys tactics”.

I know that’s not actually how things work, before anyone jumps all over me. But it really was a marked difference for that period, which ended with him taking off Tel and killing the game.
 
1882 said:
Thing is, they've effectively given Frank 6 months... And it's not just not working, there's not even an indication it might...
So if effect, he's had an interim period of time, and can go while there's still SOME element of the season to salvage (League positions only I mean)

If they got in someone LIKE Klinsmann, or even a Robbie Keane/Redknapp 'dream team' until the Summer, they would still have the same amount of time Frank has had, and if it gets us somewhere, great... But if not, then they know it's only temporary until the Summer, when (I assume) the club will go crawling back to Poch!

The feel good factor alone that would bring us worth the compensation they'd have to pay Frank off with.. And might even benefit us with the new new manager bounce for once!
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Yeah I can definitely see the attraction of a ‘dream team’. You only have to look at the immediate effect Martin O’Neil has at Celtic every time he is re-appointed.

It’s a fair point.
 
League Cup is gone. FA Cup is gone. League is done. CL we won't be winning it with this fraud - ticket revenue will be ENIC priority. So Frank will last till the season now I think. He will BS with his mate Lange to the end of season and receive a nice compensation.

Another season gone, another pre season of managerial search again. We all fans wasted another year of our lives supporting a lost cause of a club.

For some sick reason, ENIC hates us winning a trophy to have fans flooding the streets. They almost prefer not to have it happen again. Bunch of business exec cunts.
 
🇩🇰Thomas Frank says that he would like to see ‘social media fans’ or ‘journalists’ try and manage the current squad at Tottenham Hotspur:

🗣️"I would like to see guys on social media or you guys experience that pressure, it’s not easy."

#THFC | #COYS | #TOTTENHAM | #SPURS https://search.app/Exx9M

I'll give it a go for £100.000 a week!
 
I didn’t watch it but I heard that during a corner we had Villa had 3 players on the halfway line & Frank got 3 players to mark them . Is that right ?

He seems to be a manager who prioritises worrying about what teams can do to us rather than what we can do to them . Maybe that’s the trust he has in the squad 🤷‍♂️
 
"We all know there is only one way to have everyone happy; that is performing consistently and winning enough games."


Even when he tries to say something positive it doesn't land - surely we are trying to win "every game"....not "enough"....
 
Calgary Spur said:
I almost got the impression that the players came out thought “fuck it, we’re losing anyway, but let’s just do what we want out there, and screw this guys tactics”.

I know that’s not actually how things work, before anyone jumps all over me. But it really was a marked difference for that period, which ended with him taking off Tel and killing the game.
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I think that's happening virtually every game

Only once we are 2-0 or 2-1 down do we start playing

Then just as we look like we are building something Frank makes a load of subs and kills it
 
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