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Manager Thomas Frank
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100% to have such a young squad show no improvement and some even going backward is all on him. Once we're safe, he''s got to go.
I had put a * in the prior post and forgot to follow it up
*someone put in a match thread the other week Palace will hire Frank once Glasner goes. It was just so perfect I can see exactly that happening.
Same as Potter got West Ham after the Chelsea disaster.
Same as managers fail and get rehired all through the league, how many have 2, 3, 4 prem clubs on their CVs over the years?
The exact closed shop lack of imagination you point to is the reason he'll get another job.
Agreed completely, but it wont happen
None, its a football thing
Despite the money in the game, its still completely fucking amateur
In Ange's first two windows, we bought Johnson, Maddison, VdV, Vicario, Deki (buy clause was not mandatory), and Dragusin, and brought in Werner on loan and Solomon on a free. We lost Kane, Davinson, and Winks.
In Frank's first two windows, we bought Xavi, Kudus, Tel, and Gallagher and brought in RKM and Palhinha on loan. We lost Son and Johnson.
In no world has Frank been the most backed manager in our history. Stay off Bissouma's laughing gas.
The same DOF and CEO didn’t accept injuries for Ange.
I think it will depend on where we actually end the season.
Outside Europe and I think he gets the boot
It depends on the metrics of "poor at your job". Taking out emotion and fan bias, you could say:
- Has massively exceeded expectations in the CL, which has generated a lot of revenue
(yes, everyone was expecting us to get stiffed, not to finish 4th in the group stage) - Has started the season with key players missing to long term injury and has seen then issue compound for the 3rd year in a row, despite rotating
- Has arguably been dealt a weak hand with the squad available, with Son not replaced and been given a worse-than-Carlos-Vinicius player as a loan strikers
- And this is the one that certain tools on here really struggle with comprehending - is still currently outperforming the points total of last season so far
Kulusevski didn’t count
In terms of wages offered to new signings and senior, peak age players, Maddison was the only one signed permanently and Werner on loan. Vicario’s wages were peanuts when he signed.
Kudus, Palinha, RKM, Gallagher are all in Maddison range. Simons probably signed on higher wages than anyone arrived on since Tanguy.
They slashed the wage bill for Ange. They changed the wage structure so they could raise it for Frank.
This isn’t a subjective debate.
Results, not performances, IMO
And your analysis omits the fact that football is an entertainment business these days
And the punters have been booing the product, on several occasions this season
Yes it is. Your definition of "most backed" is contrived to fit your narrative. Like most of your garbage takes.
Wages correlate with winning. Transfer fees don’t.
In terms of wages and wage structure, Frank is the most backed manager in his first 2 windows that we’ve ever had.
Edit: maybe Conte as well tbh
I guess you are an emotional thinker who goes on what things feel like. Thats fine mate, im not going to say you are bringing a “contrived narrative” or say your posts are “Garbage”… but I can explain why I’ve objectively reached the conclusion that I have.
Up to you how you want to engage in that
When we mathematically can’t get Europe I reckon. Or at the end of season review.
The fans responded in the second half to us having a go and at times playing some decent stuff . If the penny has not dropped now with Frank it never will . I expect the usual cautious boring start next game sadly
Has there been an issue with Champions League performances?
They havent been that different to premier league performances
The opposition has though...
6 clean sheets in 8 games and +10 GD. I don't know what you're watching if you don't see a difference in our performances
Congrats Frank in gaslighting fans to slowly accepting a lower standard of our club. I can gradually see people giving Frank more benefit of doubts now all because of some 2nd halves displays.
If any one thinks Frank is deserving of a 2nd season because of injuries and not being probably backed, then be prepared for relegation next season, if we managed to escape from one this season.
If any one thinks Frank is deserving of a 2nd season because of injuries and not being probably backed, then be prepared for relegation next season, if we managed to escape from one this season.
He's been objectively shit, this sounds like it's been written by Vinai for a case for Frank to keep his job.
I’m sure both have a correlation and perhaps the wage correlation is stronger. To say transfer fees have no correlation to winning tells me you don’t know what correlation is.
Prove it. You are probably going off gross wages which doesn’t account for the significant inflation of wages that has taken place in the past decade or two. Using this logic, any new manager is going to qualify as most backed. An accurate way to measure this would be relative wages when compared to other clubs.
If a decade from now, we are paying double the wages, but so are other clubs, that doesn’t mean that future manager is “more backed”.
I make you right... nothing this board does surprises me anymore... they will not want to pay the compensation and no doubt Frank will do a Powerpoint on the difference the injured players will have on the upcoming season. We will probably finish 12th, the board will see that as progress on back to back finishes of 17th and increase ticket prices.
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I made the distinction between results and performances, its not rocket science
Results have been very good
I dont think that means performances have, particularly in context of your comment "It's a biopolar season in performances across the two competitions" - Im saying our level of performance has been pretty consistent across competitions - the level of opposition has not.
Take our last two games, Frankfurt didnt even try - were out, 6 changes from the weekend, no manager, given up - and Dortmund were a complete no show on the day and had 10 men.