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Manager Thomas Frank
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He’d suit Brighton more as it’s a similar setup to Brentford.
Buy young players, sell them on.
They play completely different styles though. Brighton being in managers that play a certain way. They wouldn't touch Frank.
Which is very wise.
We certainly change gear... we hit reverse.
Tactically he’s the antithesis of what Brighton would want.
Are we hoping a heavyweight like Brighton come in to take him away from us?
The real problem is the lack of at least 1 prolific goal scorer. Some forwards are good at other things but being a prolific goal scorer is different. We always have had them, Greaves, Gilzean, Chivers, Crooks, Archibald, Sherringham, Klinsman, Defoe, Keane, Berbatov, Kane & Son. I have probably missed some out. They rescue and win matches but we lost Kane & now Son. Ange made up for it by attacking in numbers but Frank relies on fewer attackers and they simply are not good enough. He had better goal scorers at Brentford. Who ever takes over will struggle.
I am not arguing that Frank should stay but I am concerned it will not improve when he does go.
I am not arguing that Frank should stay but I am concerned it will not improve when he does go.
Concede less !
You missed part of my post.
We need to judge him on what he can do with a fit squad. He had that at the start of the season, and he was poor.
The performances now are inevitable. The squad is missing 13 players. But at the start, he had a full squad and still was unable to demonstrate a system and mindset built for winning. It was negative survival first football.
Does he have the tools and staff to improve and start playing attacking football? Maybe. Let's see how he does when Danso, Porro, Spence and Kulu are back.
In any normal season that's a bloody fantastic set of fixtures. Newcastle and Palace horribly out of form, a promoted team, an already-relegated team, and 3 decidedly mid-table sides at home, 2 of which will probably have nothing to play for.
Yet under Frank you can see us struggling in every single one of those. If we lose to Newcastle I think the board need to think very seriously about replacing him just to get us a new-manager bounce. We simply cannot afford to do what Leicester did when they waited until April to sack Rodgers when it was already too late. The stakes are too high and with these fixtures a decent stop-gap manager should be able to get us over the line.
Hell, Wolves found some journeyman from Portugal and he comfortably kept them up in a similar situation last season with a much worse team. There must be someone we can get on a short term deal to give the team a kick up the arse for 3 months.
Might cost us 10-20m or whatever to sack Frank, but he's surely gone in the summer anyway. Just pull the trigger and shake things up. Will cost the club a fuckload more if we go down.
Yes his philosophy matched the club ethos, the execution needed to be better.
I’ll die on this hill no matter what.
Ange has flaws, but would have no doubt learnt a lot and would have likely adapted with a third season. Deserved at least the first 10 matches of this season to demonstrate said learnings. Said it at the time on my varying WhatsApp groups as soon as he got sacked, and I’ll say this same thing again… unless we signed Klopp or someone world class like a Zidane, sacking Ange made no sense.
VDV in the couple interviews he did even stated the decision to sacrifice the league when relegation was no longer possible was heavily back d by the playing group. The board took umbrage and made the decision hastily.
To those who try to use Ange's stint as Forest as a black mark against him, he had no transfer window and the entire Forest squad was built around counter attack, not the football Ange is renowned for, wasn't give the proper time to imprint his DNA.
And lastly, to those who keep thinking Poch is some sort of solution or savior, think again. Bloke was sacked at Chelsea and is now facing the real threat of the sack if the US don’t at least make the last 16. His tenure had been under the microscope for quite some time.
But, this is what the club gets for replacing a trophy winning manager with someone with no experience with “big” clubs and now the entire club is reaping what it sowed.
Now I truly understand why Ange would rather see Woolwich win the title, refusing to throw a match and see the ENTIRE club imprinted with the winning DNA.
The club from top to bottom is just loser mentality.
Ange has flaws, but would have no doubt learnt a lot and would have likely adapted with a third season. Deserved at least the first 10 matches of this season to demonstrate said learnings. Said it at the time on my varying WhatsApp groups as soon as he got sacked, and I’ll say this same thing again… unless we signed Klopp or someone world class like a Zidane, sacking Ange made no sense.
VDV in the couple interviews he did even stated the decision to sacrifice the league when relegation was no longer possible was heavily back d by the playing group. The board took umbrage and made the decision hastily.
To those who try to use Ange's stint as Forest as a black mark against him, he had no transfer window and the entire Forest squad was built around counter attack, not the football Ange is renowned for, wasn't give the proper time to imprint his DNA.
And lastly, to those who keep thinking Poch is some sort of solution or savior, think again. Bloke was sacked at Chelsea and is now facing the real threat of the sack if the US don’t at least make the last 16. His tenure had been under the microscope for quite some time.
But, this is what the club gets for replacing a trophy winning manager with someone with no experience with “big” clubs and now the entire club is reaping what it sowed.
Now I truly understand why Ange would rather see Woolwich win the title, refusing to throw a match and see the ENTIRE club imprinted with the winning DNA.
The club from top to bottom is just loser mentality.
No. But he played Romero. And that’s how he’s repaid him.
And he’s not counting the board off for not backing him.
So fuck him. He’s happy sucking everyone off.
I don't believe Ange was ever one for learning, too set in his ways
If he was to succeed he'd have needed to change his staff, and I don't think he was going to do that.
Sacking Ange was entirely correct.
Hiring Frank was the mistake
We’d have to essentially DOUBLE our current PPG to get 14 points. This club is fucking diabolical.
It we don’t get 3 points from Newcastle then it’s only going to get harder
Like last season, I’m struggling to see where we will pick up a win. Morale must be rock bottom.