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I know I was badly out of my tits in the early nineties, but 51 games for Livermore and Clemence? Really?!?
Thank fuck I can't remember 88-97.
Thank fuck I can't remember 88-97.
Yep, can remember getting quite excited that year. The other seasons around it were really dire.
Yeah, I thought after beating Southamton 6-2 in the fifth round then winning at Anfield in the quarters that our name was on the Cup, then we lost 4-1 to a shit Everton team who fluked the Final against a weakened United team....Fucking gutted.
Just shows how statistics can be made to make anything look good.
With no expection, our greatest manager was Bill Nic. Yet he is only halfway up that list!!!
With no expection, our greatest manager was Bill Nic. Yet he is only halfway up that list!!!
Some other ones not on the list:
Burkinshaw - 42.2%
Venables - 40.1%
Ardiles - 30.8%
Francis - 38.4%
Gross - 34.5%
Graham - 39.2%
Hoddle - 39.4%
Santini - 38.5%
Ramos - 38.9%
Not that it's a good way to compare managers at all. Points per game would be slightly better in order to account for the difference between draws and wins, but that falls down when you consider that draws were more valuable in the pre-1981 2-points-per-win era (which also may explain why Nicholson/Rowe are further down the list than we'd expect).
Not to mention that a manager's performance is going to be strongly impacted by the squad he inherits, the strength of rival teams at the time and even the strength of cup opposition he's drawn against.
Burkinshaw - 42.2%
Venables - 40.1%
Ardiles - 30.8%
Francis - 38.4%
Gross - 34.5%
Graham - 39.2%
Hoddle - 39.4%
Santini - 38.5%
Ramos - 38.9%
Not that it's a good way to compare managers at all. Points per game would be slightly better in order to account for the difference between draws and wins, but that falls down when you consider that draws were more valuable in the pre-1981 2-points-per-win era (which also may explain why Nicholson/Rowe are further down the list than we'd expect).
Not to mention that a manager's performance is going to be strongly impacted by the squad he inherits, the strength of rival teams at the time and even the strength of cup opposition he's drawn against.
Used to like the Everton team of Gray, Sharpe, Sheedy, etc. they went on my shitlist that day and have never left it.
God that was a depressing match. Was that the season that we were kicked out of the cup only for Sugar to get it overturned?
That win up at anfield was a classic.
It was. We started with the famous five with Ossie and ended up with Gerry for three marvelous seasons.
I loved the season with Clemence and Livermore in charge. SHeringham Anderton and BArmby were shit hot. Remember we reattled Southampton with 4 goals in about 2 minutes. Did leeds in the ass 4-0 at WHL, Nayims wonder volley against the scouse, smashing City at maine road and starting a riot.I remember it as a fine season and then we lost 1-0 to the scum in the cup semi and then the Venables/Sugar thing blew up. The start of out 1990's demise.
I think the Venables era was perhaps a little overrated because of the FA Cup win, that same year we sailed very close to relegation and the next season wasn't a great deal better, I can't remember it that well but it was over 20 years back in fairness!
It was a different time when being a cup team counted for a lot more than it does at the moment.
It was a different time when being a cup team counted for a lot more than it does at the moment.
YEP BRO ,WHAT THE FUCK !!!!
John Cameron - 570 games in just 8 years
How much football did they play back then?!
With a squad of 11