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Match Tottenham Hotspur VS Ipswich. Sunday the 10th of November @2pm.

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Maureen said:
Still don’t see this frenetic stuff it’s mainly slow slow slow! What is kamikaze is we have a bunch of players upfiekd who are never going to receive the ball as the oppo have everyone back. We are relying on our CBs to provide cutting passes mostly. They have out all to a FB as they are upfield hiding. Wingers especially on the right are no where to be seen and ignored anyway. Only on the left does Sonny see some ball. Johnson is ignored and probably rightly as he is general crap.
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Johnson is a pussy who scores the occasional tap in!

In flashes he’s shown that he could be much better than he is currently showing but doesn’t seem to have the guts or the will!
 
Maureen said:
Not sure it’s gloating it’s more an expression of reality. Do you seriously think after all the money spent, 18 months of Ange ‘coaching’ and instilling a winning mentality that we see these types of performances every other game?
The guy was on about being a winner last season and pres season, 4th was not good enough, that derbies are not important, beating city was more important, winning games when we don’t deserve to is not what he wants so will do nothing to try to change the game, all signings are his , look at who he has given the green light to, no set piece coach, our corners are pathetic 90% of the time, we have wingers who Dracula would love as they can’t cross, we are sent out with a shit mentality, even when that is recognised as evidenced by his post match comments he does nothing during the game, I could go on but that is a good start of where we are under this so called elite manger after 18 months. Oh yeah he really believes in the youth. We have sold or sent on loan most of our top talents from last season yet put faith in players like Werner , Johnson, etc. As for treatment of Spence well no better than how conte treated him even though he has looked better than both our current FBs when played.
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Please paragraph, I can't read this
 
Gmspurs said:
Just seen a clip of the Ipswich bicycle kick goal from a different angle.


Johnson and Porro can hang their heads in shame.

Pathetic
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This is the worrying thing. As a defender, it’s instinctive to attack the ball. It’s basic. The fact neither did, and others have done similar things this season makes me wonder what on earth is going on with the attitude of the team. It’s just bizarre to watch.
 
Steve007 said:
This is the worrying thing. As a defender, it’s instinctive to attack the ball. It’s basic. The fact neither did, and others have done similar things this season makes me wonder what on earth is going on with the attitude of the team. It’s just bizarre to watch.
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Nail on Head mate!

Inspiring Tim Tebow GIF by Home Free
 
Sundowner said:
100% this. They're fucking kids. I like all three but they all need game time against men. Hope to god Levy backs Ange or whoever in the January Window. Or at least play fucking Spence and give someone a rest. Its completely insane whats going on
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The treatment of Spence is say now is worse than under conte. At least he knew he wasn’t wanted then whilst now Ange and club appear to want him to stay but Ange doesn’t want to play him. Bizarre!
 
bk_spur said:
Great points here- namely that Udog and Porro are almost never able to receive a pass from their CBs because they are busy running upfield all the time. It's the most bizarre setup and so tactically backwards- CDMs going wide to receive from the CBs, and wingers dropping deep under their underlapping inverted FB to receive from the CBs.

Its fucking stupid football tactics and Ange is an absolute fraud for insisting on trying it all the time.
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Said it umpteen times the FBs are never around to pick up the ball from CBs. They have to play suicide passes into middle of park. Surely if teams like potters Brighton can pass the ball out from the back without inverted FBs we can as well?
 
Maureen said:
The treatment of Spence is say now is worse than under conte. At least he knew he wasn’t wanted then whilst now Ange and club appear to want him to stay but Ange doesn’t want to play him. Bizarre!
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Spence is very Bizarre. Like, he gets a new contract. Ange speaks highly of him. Then we don't see him. I know he was injured but he has been available prior to. Porro and Udogie look truly exhausted already. December is going to kill this team. It's not built for this much football. Squad building has been poor for years but this summer was absolutely garbage
 
Crocker said:
I know things are still a bit raw when managers are interviewed just after a loss so what they say can be a bit meh. But I hate crap like this:

“The inconsistency we're having this year, ultimately it comes down to me and my approach and it’s something I need to try and fix and see if I can help the players in that area."

We’ll all rest easy then. Just seems so meaningless and empty.

I would prefer to know about the lack of nous by players of placing about 20 crosses straight into the hands of their keeper and thinking that, this isn’t really working but let’s keep doing it anyway. Maybe Ange could see if he can help the players in that area.
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“Help the players in that area” what does that mean? It’s so wishy washy like a uni lecturer trying to help a student understand something. His approach and fix it how? He said it’s his tactics and he ain’t gonna change. So what’s he gonna fix. It’s such a BS answer that means nothing.
 
MemphisWill said:
It was worth a punt.

That's the lesson of moneyball - if you do not have the finances to compete in the system with your richer competition, then you have to identify inefficiencies in the system being ignored by your richer competition.

But Ange looks a false prophet, and this doesn't look like it works (which many of us suspected). Too many risks taken at the back, you'll never score enough at this level to make up how many times the lack of discipline at the back fucks you over.

Infuriating thing is how those cunts at Liverpool always seem to get it right in identifying the correct next "thing". They come up smelling like roses every time while ENIC keep getting beat with the "cheap" stick when it's not even the right stick to beat them with...FSG has proven you can be tight as fuck and still win.
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Strange how a 31 yr old new manager can beat pep
 
scarletjim said:
Well that's not what I saw at all. To provide a quick objective analysis, I just looked at the player ratings on BBC - they have Bentancur as our best player today. Not saying that those ratings are the final say by any means, but certainly it does suggest that I'm not alone in my thinking. Reading back through the thread, there are others who also thought he was ok, certainly better than most of our clowns today anyway.

EDIT: Let me guess - you're one of the Bissouma fans who therefore slag off Bentancur every time he plays, yes? The reality is that both Bents and Biss have the potential to be awesome players for us, but are both so inconsistent that they never achieve that. I hope that either one of them - or perhaps both - do so, but there's not much between them right now, and anyone who says otherwise is just biased.
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They need to play together to give us a better footballing midfield.
 
Sundowner said:
Spence is very Bizarre. Like, he gets a new contract. Ange speaks highly of him. Then we don't see him. I know he was injured but he has been available prior to. Porro and Udogie look truly exhausted already. December is going to kill this team. It's not built for this much football. Squad building has been poor for years but this summer was absolutely garbage
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Yet Ange has not given him any minutes to get rid of rustyness and get match fit. Surely he should be getting integrated into the team.
 
MemphisWill said:
If scoring the most goals in the entire league isn't "enough to win"....then maybe the "not conceding goals" bit is the real problem, eh?

Most pointedly, if scoring more goals than City isn't enough to be better than 10th, then almost certainly the system is completely fucked.

Stop blaming the attackers. It's either the defence or it's Ange. But we've scored more than anyone in the league. It ain't a lack of goals.
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Thing is when we have needed goals like v palace and Ipswich we have failed to create any good chances.
 
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