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Competition UEFA Europa League - 2024/2025

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Where do we finish in this comp?


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As usual with us against "smaller" competition. Quality of players is not the question. The question is attitude and application of said quality.

Exactly. Teams like Liverpool and City would get through this group playing mostly academy players because they play hard in every single game. For them nothing is worse than losing a game whereas we've seen in the past that our managers, players and fans don't mind losing matches in "lesser" competitions.

Our recent record in Europe is so bad that the only possible explanation is that the team simply didn't give a shit. We have lost to some truly abominable teams because we couldn't be bothered to win.
 
So you attend six or seven home EL games and you should get a ticket for the final ahead of someone who has attended almost every home game for the last five years (20 in my case, but only the last five count)?


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Oh and I will have attended all the EL games too, as will 20K or so other Gold ST holders. So you’d still miss out. Sorry.
Not saying this is you - but why should someone who doesn’t go to any of the Europa games pre the final then get first dibs on the tickets for the final - how is that fair?

So they go to league games but not cup games but should get tickets for the final - bizarre. They are more deserving because they went to Woolwich/Chelsea/West Ham at home rather than Qarabag/Elfsborg/AZ at home - please explain this one to me.
 
Exactly. Teams like Liverpool and City would get through this group playing mostly academy players because they play hard in every single game. For them nothing is worse than losing a game whereas we've seen in the past that our managers, players and fans don't mind losing matches in "lesser" competitions.

Our recent record in Europe is so bad that the only possible explanation is that the team simply didn't give a shit. We have lost to some truly abominable teams because we couldn't be bothered to win.
I hope that the fact that there is no return leg may impact this positively. But that remains to be seen.

It truly is a problem that has been going on for at least over a decade. Like, we saw it during Poch even.
 
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Exactly. Teams like Liverpool and City would get through this group playing mostly academy players because they play hard in every single game. For them nothing is worse than losing a game whereas we've seen in the past that our managers, players and fans don't mind losing matches in "lesser" competitions.

Our recent record in Europe is so bad that the only possible explanation is that the team simply didn't give a shit. We have lost to some truly abominable teams because we couldn't be bothered to win.
I think it may be different this time around. I harken back to our friendlies and how much better our B team played. I think 3-4 starters and the likes of Gray, Moore, Bergvall, Radu, Lankshear, etc. will be enough to put away most teams we are playing. For Roma and Galatasaray and maybe Hoffenheim we may use a few more starters, but the kids should be able to handle the rest.
 
Feel for Spence really thought europa would have been great for him to get more mins under his belt for us, especially the weaker teams allowing him to start those games... guessing Gray will be getting that chance instead for Porro rotation
 
Minimal rotation needed here. Sure Qarabag and Elfsborg at home we will get away with resting 4 or 5 - but the other games we need to go near full strength - finishing top 8 is a strong incentive, gives you a hell of chance of making the quarters and it’s anybody’s competition to win from there
 
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Given Spurs managed to lose to the lowest ranking team in Europe a couple of years ago, through the usual cluster fuck level performance, anyone who thinks carrier bag and Elfsborg is easy is very much in the optimistic camp.

Second consideration, looking at the CT / HG situation, it’s been so bad clearing the decks that they have only seemingly made any pure profit by flogging off the likes of Winks & Skipp and anyone else they can get a fee from ( which ain’t that many - Walker Peters, Edwards, Onomah - who else ? ) leaving the squad light of the necessary options now, one could COULD suggest they the profit margins were maintained at the expense of growing talent.

The Harry Kane money, pure profit, and like waiting on an inheritance to come through.

And it’s actually pretty woeful management of talent to be so compromised now. Four keepers, three of which are compromised in one way or another, is simply not a good look however you spin it. Spence, whatever one thinks of him, either is in the squad or is sold, as this is not the right way to treat him when claiming he is doing well.

In the first half of Spurs participation in Europe they had only a handful of defeats in 30 years, losing at home once in 24 years or something like that ( Steve Perryman own goal against Madrid ). These days they generally puke up 🤮 crap performances on top of crap performances on a regular basis and lose to trash quite often. Not sure what changed….
 
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It's funny seeing the inference being taken from the omission of Spence. All I'll say( and I say it with a heavy heart) this is the club that screwed up the loan so badly they had to give a player away. I look at Alfie Devine's situation the retention of Werner Foster and Austin's contract...and in all honesty I see people who are bordering on utter incompetence.

It’s mad. There’s no planning at all. It’s all set of their pants despite what they try and say.
 

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