Var poll yay or nay

[mummy]

It is the hand ball rule that is the problem today and not VAR

Absolutely spot on.
They've removed the 'deliberate' element from handball because it was open to debate and they've replaced it with something that's unfair to anyone with an arm.
Doh those silly old football authorities. They're just a bunch of silly old men in suits.

As a result, we're signing Vikram Agnihotri to replaceTrippier.

 

[Dr Rocktopus]

Let just think for a moment without VAR,
How do you feel when your team gets away with an offside goal?
How do you feel when the opponent gets away with an offside goal?

I know I don't like either of those situations and any reasonable person shouldn't. We'd all rather have the call correct in the first place of course, but I think VAR in the current state needs significant improvement.

When done correctly it shouldn't take 5 minutes. They really need to make a call on the pitch and then look for 100% evidence to overturn the call.

I think what VAR has been doing right now is pointing out some of the rules that needs to be modified. Clearly the handball rules need sorting out because they can't get a consistant call when watching a replay but it's less VAR's fault then the rules or understanding of the rules by the officials.

It’s the fan spectacle that becomes vulnerable. We’ll get to a situation where goals simply aren’t celebrated, because we’ll all be all too familiar with a VAR decision pissing on our premature jubilation.

It’s also hardly ensuring fairness. The Sheik Mansour team could easily decide to bribe officials in the VAR team to swing a decision in their favour based on some tiny technical infringement that took place 20 minutes earlier.

At the very least there needs to be a time limit. A decision within 30 seconds or the initial decision stands.

The disallowed goal v City was technically the correct decision. It was in our favour and I’m happy with that. But the long-term effect it has on the fan experience concerns me.

 

[bfwolf]

As an NFL fan I cannot emphasize enough how true this is.

I enjoyed the Zapruder film parsing of every frame and every nook and cranny of the rulebook for a good decade after replay arrived, I was a true believer at first.

Now I've seen the awful truth. Save yourselves while you still can.

American football is absolutely better with instant replay. They don’t get every call right but they get more calls right.

 

[bfwolf]

It’s the fan spectacle that becomes vulnerable. We’ll get to a situation where goals simply aren’t celebrated, because we’ll all be all too familiar with a VAR decision pissing on our premature jubilation.

It’s also hardly ensuring fairness. The Sheik Mansour team could easily decide to bribe officials in the VAR team to swing a decision in their favour based on some tiny technical infringement that took place 20 minutes earlier.

At the very least there needs to be a time limit. A decision within 30 seconds or the initial decision stands.

The disallowed goal v City was technically the correct decision. It was in our favour and I’m happy with that. But the long-term effect it has on the fan experience concerns me.

I’ve seen the “fans wont celebrate goals argument” several times now. It’s utterly preposterous. I’ll give $20 to everybody on this forum if fans suddenly stop celebrating goals.

But as bad as that argument is, the bribery argument may be the single most ridiculous idea posted on an Internet forum. Sure, the VAR official can be bribed. As can the referee. As can the assistant referee. As can one of the players. Certainly bribing any of those would be more effective than bribing the VAR official.

 

[Totti]

Said at the back end of last season, when everyone was saying Liverpools luck will run out with VAR as they'll stop getting penalties, that it won't make a difference because the referee and whoever is in charge of VAR still have to view and give their decision.

In two Premier League games today, no penalties were given, yet two should have been.

If only there was a video assistant referee that'd make sure the right decisions were given..

 

[Borks]

The Premier League's implementation of VAR has been nothing short of a disgrace. They've in effect created a situation where the match is refereed by two different officials, which is creating a dissolution of responsibility. And what you get in that situation is inaction and you're going to see blatant penalties not given and blatant howlers not corrected.

VAR needs to be used to help referees make the correct decision instead of giving the governing bodies further power to overprotect refs from making terrible decisions and not being made to justify them.

The sooner everyone says “refs are human, we’re here to help” then VAR as a concept works. Right now it’s sort of “unless we’re unable to get away with it, we’ll agree with you”

 

[Wellsey]

The Premier League's implementation of VAR has been nothing short of a disgrace. They've in effect created a situation where the match is refereed by two different officials, which is creating a dissolution of responsibility. And what you get in that situation is inaction and you're going to see blatant penalties not given and blatant howlers not corrected.

Exactly, it's now a case of if in doubt don't give it as VAR will bail me out.
However the VAR ref doesn't like to contradict the on pitch ref meaning no proper decision is made!!