Would you take Mourinho?

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Would you take Mourinho as Poch replacement?

  • Yes

    Votes: 114 37.3%

  • No

    Votes: 124 40.5%

  • Id rather shag my granny

    Votes: 76 24.8%
  • Total voters
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On the plus side Mourinho knows how to win.

On the negative side, the way to win is often by buying the best players.

Mourinho guided an awful United squad to a 2nd place spot in the EPL and a Europa League title. He was quite open that they players weren't good enough to achieve more.

The argument that he doesn't promote youth is debatable. Didn't he give Rashford and Mctominay their breaks at United?

I can't see him working well with Levy, and becoming frustrated when he is unable to upgrade players. In saying that, I would have no doubt that if he took over for 2 or 3 seasons; we would win a domestic and possibly a European trophy.
 
To the people saying they don't want Mourinho, fair enough.

But name me another manager who is a proven winner (i.e has won league and CL titles) that we could realistically get when Poch inevitably falls on his sword at some point this season?

The only one I can think of is Benitez
 
StripiestPilot said:
I don't think anybody is particularly excited by Mourinho, he has become too sour in recent years although he is still capable of delivering trophies. They just want a manager who is tough, who will react when his team is in horrible form and not just keep doing the same things. A manager who can be ruthless and pragmatic.

The thing with "winning" managers is that they hate to lose, nothing in life is worse than losing football games to them. Wenger, Mancini, Conte, Klopp, Mou, Ferguson, Pep, Simeone, Van Gaal, the reason they have had so many rants and meltdowns over the years is because they fucking hate losing. If you looked at Poch's interviews and body language this season you'd think we were ticking over nicely in 3rd place, it's as if nothing is wrong. Eriksen and Rose are still playing, he's saying he won't make signings and that we we only "need time", it's like bizzarro world. We don't need time, we need wins. If we had one of those other managers in charge they would be foaming at the mouth.

Don't get me wrong, there are winning managers with a more Poch-like mentality and serene demeanour, like Allegri, Emery and Ancelotti, but they are much rarer. They also have trophies under their belt so nobody can question their attitude. Poch doesn't have anything under his belt and if I'm honest, takes losing matches too well. I want a manager who is a bad loser.

Poch still has this attitude of "lads, it's Tottenham" which is reflected in everything he does. "You can't compare us to Liverpool, you don't understand our project, we need time". No. We have been above Liverpool for almost every one of the last 10 seasons and just played a CL final against them. You absolutely can compare us to them and we don't need more time. The problem now is him, the other stuff stopped being true 5 years ago. Compare Liverpool's starting XI last night to the team we put out against Colchester, do not tell me we cannot compete with Liverpool, that is utter hog shit. We just have a manager who is not quite tough enough and not quite brave enough to win decisive matches.
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Really good post, especially the point about Poch and 'crunch' games. I wonder if Mourinho imminently is feasible though. I think Levy would baulk at the cost of sacking Poch and employing Mourinho in one swoop - would cost a bomb and there is definitely risk in it, as an approach.
 
ErikLamela'sHip said:
Really good post, especially the point about Poch and 'crunch' games. I wonder if Mourinho imminently is feasible though. I think Levy would baulk at the cost of sacking Poch and employing Mourinho in one swoop - would cost a bomb and there is definitely risk in it, as an approach.
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But the money is not paid out in one fell swoop right I think?

Like, we just keep Poch on the salary list until he finds a new job/his contract runs out.

And Mou would not be given his salary in one bulk payout either. Sure it would be hefty, but it is money that we can spend if need be.
 
Stopspot said:
in his own words yes. He wants a full year off so he can sharpen up his English skills if he wishes to move to England.

Doesn't mean a club cannot convince him to break his hiatus earlier but his plan when he left Juve was to take a sabbatical.
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in his own words? I can only see a link from the Sun with no quotes and then others referencing the Sun article.
 
Stopspot said:
But the money is not paid out in one fell swoop right I think?

Like, we just keep Poch on the salary list until he finds a new job/his contract runs out.

And Mou would not be given his salary in one bulk payout either. Sure it would be hefty, but it is money that we can spend if need be.
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Typically that's in Italy, they remain employed by the club, its why you sometimes see clubs taking back managers they have sacked (they are still on the payroll)

In the UK I believe its agreed between the club and player how its structured and may or may not include a clause on the next club. If they don't agree terms it goes to tribunal.

www.thetimes.co.uk

Chelsea ordered to pay Antonio Conte £9m compensation

Antonio Conte has won his legal battle against Chelsea, with the club ordered to pay their former head coach £9 million in compensation after sacking him last summer.The Times revealed in March that a Premier League manager’s arbitration tribunal was being held in private to consider the case and bo
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Paying off managers is expensive. Manchester United’s half-yearly accounts revealed it had cost £19.6m to pay off Mourinho and his assistants, who had previously received a total of more than £8m from Chelsea.

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www.independent.co.uk

How does Jose Mourinho's Manchester United pay-out compare with other high-profile dismissals?

As history shows, being sacked as a top-flight manager has its benefits...
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I quite like Mourinho on TV as a pundit, he can be quite witty at times and worth listening to.
But I would rather he stayed with Sky than came to Spurs.
 
Wow, Chelsea have paid out an awful lot of money to the managers they've sacked.

I really do completely understand the arguments for getting Mourinho in, but I just can't see it working in reality. I don't think he'd work well with Levy and I don't think Levy would pay anything like the £24m a year JM was on at Man Utd.

I do think we are reaching the end of the line with Poch, how soon the parting happens I don't know, but it's inevitable. That will then be another opportunity for the board to show their intentions. They'll either need to splash the cash to get a proven winner that can take our club to the next level, or they go cheap and leave us in mediocrity.
What I don't want to see happen is another manager merry-go-round that costs lots of money and unsettles the squad. I want us to choose the right manager first time.
 
TeamSpirit™ said:
“Jose bitterly disappointing to exit the league cup today, your thoughts?”

“I’m a 4 time league cup champion, including beating Tottenham in 2015, this is football heritage”

You sellouts deserve everything that you’re gonna get.
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Sellouts in what sense?

That we have finally lost patience with Poch after 5 trophy less seasons? or we want an ex Chelsea manager to come in and win us some trophies?
 
StripiestPilot said:
We had Gallas and Adebayor play for us, surely Mourinho is nothing compared to that?

Rolling up at Woolwich with Gallas as our captain for the 3-2 win was one of the greatest troll moments in the history of football. If someone wants to work for Tottenham then their history doesn't matter.
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Gallas gave his all in that game. I remember after the final whistle he basically just laid down on the pitch exhausted.
 
harry7 said:
On the plus side Mourinho knows how to win.

On the negative side, the way to win is often by buying the best players.

Mourinho guided an awful United squad to a 2nd place spot in the EPL and a Europa League title. He was quite open that they players weren't good enough to achieve more.

The argument that he doesn't promote youth is debatable. Didn't he give Rashford and Mctominay their breaks at United?

I can't see him working well with Levy, and becoming frustrated when he is unable to upgrade players. In saying that, I would have no doubt that if he took over for 2 or 3 seasons; we would win a domestic and possibly a European trophy.
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Rashford no, McTominay yes.
 
I hate Scousers said:
He's still in the process of pissing it away hence using the present tense. But I guess that depends on whether you think the damage has been done and the squad is shit or its still quality which is entirely subjective.
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Fair enough but Xmas last year was the start of the rot, not Newcastle.
 
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