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Player Xavi Simons

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Matt1882 said:
In many ways, players downing tools when it's obvious a coaches ideas will harm the team is the best thing to do, not the worst.
I would disagree with some of your sentiment though. The first half Vs Newcastle was no worse than City, Spam, Villa (FAC), Arse, Chelsea. There was just nothing there at all. Players all looked vacant and disinterested.
They may not have actively have downed tools, but I strongly suspect that they were so de-motivated that subconsciously, they weren't trying.
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Yeah fair, but aside from the games where we were just utterly dominated tactically (Arse and Chelsea) we still had some decent 2nd half bursts. City and Villa we were the better team in the 2nd half for instance.

We never really just rolled over and died in games, which is something I have seen under managers where it looked like the players had completely and utterly lost it and started conceding goals for fun (the Newcastle Stellini game for instance). And I think this is part of the reason he clung onto the job so long. We were awful but there weren't lots of 5-0 shelackings. The losses were usually marginal.

I actually completely agree with you about the subconscious thing. I guess it just felt to me like they players didn't completely hate Frank or want to force him out with player power but the best they could ever muster was a good 20-30 minute spell cos he was so uninspiring and they didn't believe in his ideas.
 
Timberwolf said:
Yeah I actually think the players did put in decent effort for Frank throughout his entire tenure. They never stopped trying to implement his ideas and they did run for him - until the Newcastle game it never felt to me like they actually gave up or downed tools.

I think the issue was his ideas were shit and he was an uninspiring leader that they didn't believe in. If the manager can't get the players up for it and can't get buy-in, I think that's on their failure as a leader than the players. Our dressing room has some dickheads but it's not Real Madrid - they're mostly nice enough lads tbh.

It's like trying to shag someone you don't remotely fancy. You can do it but it's gonna be unpleasant and you're not gonna be that up for it or giving your all

Let's hope the players can get hard for Tudor.
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Timberwolf said:
Yeah fair, but aside from the games where we were just utterly dominated tactically (Arse and Chelsea) we still had some decent 2nd half bursts. City and Villa we were the better team in the 2nd half for instance.

We never really just rolled over and died in games, which is something I have seen under managers where it looked like the players had completely and utterly lost it and started conceding goals for fun (the Newcastle Stellini game for instance). And I think this is part of the reason he clung onto the job so long. We were awful but there weren't lots of 5-0 shelackings. The losses were usually marginal.

I actually completely agree with you about the subconscious thing. I guess it just felt to me like they players didn't completely hate Frank or want to force him out with player power but the best they could ever muster was a good 20-30 minute spell cos he was so uninspiring and they didn't believe in his ideas.
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90 minute burst coming up...us 2-them 1
 
He is so bad.

Some seem impressed that for 60 million we get some technical competence once in a while and he "works hard" (ie. he will have a hack at loose balls in the immediate vicinity, usually when he has carelessly given it away).

90% of the time it is dumbfuckery in possession - either misplaced passes, holding the ball too long, or bad touches. Never seen someone get run off the ball so often, when the space gets closed it is game over immediately. And in the crunch moments when you do need him to run defensively or track or position goalside or compete for the ball he chooses not to.

Dismal.
 
He's kind of a shit arron lennon, if you peel away the reputation and glamour

can't fault his energy and workrate, but he looks like he's playing with rollerskates on
 
Deserved to concede for that shocking pass putting Woolwich in 25 yards from goal.

Deserved to be subbed every time he subsequently gave the ball away.

Didn't deserve the praise he got for 3-4 decent games.

Spurs fans have been trying to convince themselves this was a better buy than Eze recently... Well it ain't.
That cunt has 5x the goals of Xavi in the league.. from 2 games against us.. Pathetic.
 
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