It's a miracle considering his lack of actual game-time.
Glad they agree on his potential though.
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Ex-Spurs Player Juan Foyth
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It's a miracle considering his lack of actual game-time.
Glad they agree on his potential though.
More technique than Dier and calm under pressure. Must be laughing at home when he thinks he can’t get into the side.
Don't blame him. Sais it before I think he'd be a great defensive midfielder. Shocking he hasn't had more chances either there or as a CB
Yeah - I don't blame him either.
Odd that we didn't send him out on loan to get first team football, especially as Poch woudl rather play an average centre half in Dier over him.
We probably won't see Foyth until the West Ham game in the Carabao Cup and then whoever we have in the FA Cup in January (aslong as that's against a team in the Championship or lower) - deserves better for sure.
Let’s not forget that Foyth was injured until recently and had no pre-season, now Jan is injured he should expect to get some minutes in the league cup.
Poch always gives chances to players who deserve to play, to start matches Foyth has to train better than the other CBs. Talent is not enough. If he isn’t good enough or hungry enough to challenge his team mates then he should move on.
TBH I think he would have been loaned had he not injured his knee in the summer, Poch has changed his tune on loans in the last year and is now willing to send youngsters out to play in the lower leagues rather than keep them on the training pitch all season.
Poch always gives chances to players who deserve to play, to start matches Foyth has to train better than the other CBs. Talent is not enough. If he isn’t good enough or hungry enough to challenge his team mates then he should move on.
TBH I think he would have been loaned had he not injured his knee in the summer, Poch has changed his tune on loans in the last year and is now willing to send youngsters out to play in the lower leagues rather than keep them on the training pitch all season.
I refuse to believe that if Foyth trained better than Vertonghen, Sanchez and Alderweireld he'd be in the first team. Poch simply isn't going to drop Vertonghen if fit and Sanchez and Alderweireld have a lot more experience than Foyth.
The only way Foyth gets in this team (Whether he deserves it or not or trains better than everyone else) is if we suddenly change to a back three whilst Vertonghen is out and Dier is needed in central midfield or like you say, in the cups and against lower opposition.
Pochettino just seems to be at that level with us now that he's being careful with who he brings into the team and starts. This isn't like his first season or two where he would bring through the likes of Mason, Dele, Kane and play the likes of Bentaleb, Townsend etc. - he's got a lot harder job now where his squad is probably the best it's ever been, with targets bigger than he's ever had and he simply cannot afford to play inexperience in games that matter and that is probably a big reason why he relies on experience like Sissoko, Llorente etc. as opposed to bringing through youth like Edwards, Onomah etc.
Usurping Dier isnt the task at hand though.... Jan, Toby & Dav.... A trickier proposition.
Let's not forget he's been injured so far all season.
Either way you'd like to think, of all players, Poch could keep him (a fellow Argie CB) sweet and get him to 'buy into the vision'.
No quotes or refs (doesn't even allude to a mystery 'source') = Journo doing journo things...
Sadly, this.
The readiness with which he's dropped Dav (and Wimmer before him) says it all.
We'll never know if he'll cut it in the PL without trial by fire... Esp. a position like this where you don't dish out 20min end of game cameos.
Any evidence to support this assertion?
I simply think Foyth is just very unfortunate that he's behind two world class players in Toby and Jan, and our record signing in Sanchez, in a position where rotation isn't really required that much. Toby will more than likely be off next summer though so his time will come. If he's as highly rated as Poch seems to believe he is, at his age he could be our main centre back for the next 10 years. He just needs to be patient, and Poch needs to keep him motivated to keep improving.
Hopefully Kevin Bacon isn't making a rod for his own back here. We know from previously that Poch doesn't like players knocking on his door demanding more playing time...
15 years of ENIC
with the way our injury list getting longer by the day, can't see Juan going anywhere at the moment.
It’s not about dropping people. Youngsters have to be patient and wait for a chance, well good news for Juan because Jan is crocked until December. If he can’t grab a start in a league cup game now then he never will. Perform well and perhaps he can challenge Davinson, who is also raw and having a dodgy spell.
Unfortunately some young players don't see it that way... Whether you call it backing yourself or being entitled, we see it over and over.
EDIT: Defensively, we've generally been shit early doors (Keeper merri-go-round, FBs having slow start and now Jan is out). but we've only really started to settle at the back over the last few games and even then we've shipped a bunch of goals. As for Dav he's looked good when we've defended better collectively which is largely all you can ask when you're in and out of the team.
My guess is that Foyth was always pencilled-in for the domestic cups (early phases at the very least).If there was/will be one, the flashpoint is likely Dier starting ahead of him at CB.
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He's been brilliant, can't see why he's shunned from PL football