Heung-Min Son (손흥민)

[Doom Funk]

Second favourite player behind Kane for me
Absolutely love him

 

[Luvf]

Another banger to add to the collection.

I know what people mean when they say he's a streaky player but 40 goals across the last two seasons wouldn't say that. How many goals would he have got if he were more consistent? For me Son is vastly underrated. I posted the stats of Firmino's numbers in the same period and Son despite playing less and starting less is more or less neck and neck in goals.

Then we had our fans clamour for Martial and Zaha who Sonny comfortably beats on numbers. I'm glad people are now realising how lucky we are to have him. I think the scare we had with him having military service over his shoulder made our fans not take him for granted. Don't get me wrong...he's always been popular....but he deserved more adulation on par with Kane, Alli, Eriksen.

I think most of the supporters rate him high just like you do. It is just that we have a few posters here with blinkers on that the only thing they could say is that Son is a streaky player. And these a few keep saying it over and over here so it looks like that is what everyone say about him here but I am sure it is not. If he wasn't streaky by their definition he would be Ronaldo and Messi combined.

 

[Luvf]

BBC MOTD doesn't even mention Son once when he had a goal and an assist in a 2:0 game.
How did they manage that

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

Another banger to add to the collection.

I know what people mean when they say he's a streaky player but 40 goals across the last two seasons wouldn't say that. How many goals would he have got if he were more consistent? For me Son is vastly underrated. I posted the stats of Firmino's numbers in the same period and Son despite playing less and starting less is more or less neck and neck in goals.

Then we had our fans clamour for Martial and Zaha who Sonny comfortably beats on numbers. I'm glad people are now realising how lucky we are to have him. I think the scare we had with him having military service over his shoulder made our fans not take him for granted. Don't get me wrong...he's always been popular....but he deserved more adulation on par with Kane, Alli, Eriksen.

Another player, who's IS very good, is Sane. Sane gets spoken about as the Messiah. As they play in similar positions (Son more versatile so not just stuck to one wing) let's compare their numbers:
Sane
2016/17: Plyd 37 Goals 9
2017/18: Plyd 49 Goals 14
2018/19: Plyd 19 Goals 6

Son
2016/17: Plyd 47 Goals 21
2017/18: Plyd 53 Goals 18
2018/19: Plyd 18 Goals 5

Son leads his country to the World Cup culminating in beating Sane's National Team 2-0, a team that binned off Sane because of his attitude.

Had the same debate on here every year with Spurs fans who think Sane is a better player, wonder if they care to engage me yet again on the subject.

 

[The Fish]

Apart from the stats and all the tactics palarva Sonny is just so likeable and i think we are so lucky to have him. I would imagine he is a good influence in the dressing room and characters like him are vital in that regard. Love the bloke.

 

[Spanish Spur]

Apart from the stats and all the tactics palarva Sonny is just so likeable and i think we are so lucky to have him. I would imagine he is a good influence in the dressing room and characters like him are vital in that regard. Love the bloke.

And the fact that he opens up an Asian Market for Tottenham Hotspur TM wasn't part of Levy's thought process

 

[SpiderSpurs]

 

[RocketRonny]

Another player, who's IS very good, is Sane. Sane gets spoken about as the Messiah. As they play in similar positions (Son more versatile so not just stuck to one wing) let's compare their numbers:
Sane
2016/17: Plyd 37 Goals 9
2017/18: Plyd 49 Goals 14
2018/19: Plyd 19 Goals 6

Son
2016/17: Plyd 47 Goals 21
2017/18: Plyd 53 Goals 18
2018/19: Plyd 18 Goals 5

Son leads his country to the World Cup culminating in beating Sane's National Team 2-0, a team that binned off Sane because of his attitude.

Had the same debate on here every year with Spurs fans who think Sane is a better player, wonder if they care to engage me yet again on the subject.

Sane had more assists than Son and in 2017 he was considerably younger. He also affects matches more.

Son is a great player but Sane is really top class, I wouldn't also consider them playing on the same slot really.

I think Sane is more hyped due to his age and dominance, Son sometimes tend to play guerrilla style - being quite for a lot of the match only to pop with some spectacular strike.

 

[Luvf]

Apart from the stats and all the tactics palarva Sonny is just so likeable and i think we are so lucky to have him. I would imagine he is a good influence in the dressing room and characters like him are vital in that regard. Love the bloke.

You have all the right to have Son here because Poch insisted on bringing him and DL sherwerdly made it happen despite the infamous military risk etc. If you think Son was good last 3 seasons I think he will be dreamy in nest 3 as he is going into his prime.

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

Sane had more assists than Son and in 2017 he was considerably younger. He also affects matches more.

Son is a great player but Sane is really top class, I wouldn't also consider them playing on the same slot really.

I think Sane is more hyped due to his age and dominance, Son sometimes tend to play guerrilla style - being quite for a lot of the match only to pop with some spectacular strike.

Assists are the shittest stat in football mate, just take a look at van Dicks for Liverpool against Everton (Aurier's yesterday, it was just a 10yrd pass).

I said I think Sane is a quality player, but he's not performed to Son's level, he's seen as a weak link by both his International Manager and also by Guardiola who's admitted he isn't entirely happy with his attitude. he isn't as versatile as Son, who can play across the 3 behind the striker and as Striker. Line them up against a wall in the playground and I'm picking Son over Sane every game.

 

[Luvf]

Another player, who's IS very good, is Sane. Sane gets spoken about as the Messiah. As they play in similar positions (Son more versatile so not just stuck to one wing) let's compare their numbers:
Sane
2016/17: Plyd 37 Goals 9
2017/18: Plyd 49 Goals 14
2018/19: Plyd 19 Goals 6

Son
2016/17: Plyd 47 Goals 21
2017/18: Plyd 53 Goals 18
2018/19: Plyd 18 Goals 5

Son leads his country to the World Cup culminating in beating Sane's National Team 2-0, a team that binned off Sane because of his attitude.

Had the same debate on here every year with Spurs fans who think Sane is a better player, wonder if they care to engage me yet again on the subject.

I would not be the one to tout Sane over lol. I know you were one of the early supporters who rated Sonny high and often. I just hope the club would be able to get more and most out of him while he is here because as far as I know Son achieved all those numbers without the attacking front not really passing well to each other. At least not as well as it could imo. When they do we 'll be truly previlliged to see what Son and his mates can do to take the team to next levels

 

[Luvf]

Sane had more assists than Son and in 2017 he was considerably younger. He also affects matches more.

Son is a great player but Sane is really top class, I wouldn't also consider them playing on the same slot really.

I think Sane is more hyped due to his age and dominance, Son sometimes tend to play guerrilla style - being quite for a lot of the match only to pop with some spectacular strike.

Am I supposed to laugh from the 1st sentence or on the second. Sane affects games more? Come on can you be any more vague

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

I would not be the one to tout Sane over lol. I know you were one of the early supporters who rated Sonny high and often. I just hope the club would be able to get more and most out of him while he is here because as far as I know Son achieved all those numbers without the attacking front not really passing well to each other. At least not as well as it could imo. When they do we 'll be truly previlliged to see what Son and his mates can do to take the team to next levels

Hard one to judge. City totally dominate the oppo and mostly camp on the oppo box, in order to break down the opposition it's players like Son/Sane that are required, however, I think both actually are best suited to games that are a bit more stretched, with space to run into. So, I think the way we are set up right now actually suits Son more than hinders him. Whenever I watched Sane he's been at his most unstoppable when he's running from a deeper position with the ball, when he's turned and committed the defence.

 

[iz futbal]

Assists are the shittest stat in football mate, just take a look at van Dicks against Liverpool (Aurier's yesterday, it was just a 10yrd pass).

I said I think Sane is a quality player, but he's not performed to Son's level, he's seen as a weak link by both his International Manager and also by Guardiola who's admitted he isn't entirely happy with his attitude. he isn't as versatile as Son, who can play across the 3 behind the striker and as Striker. Line them up against a wall in the playground and I'm picking Son over Sane every game.

Mate....Vandijk's and Aurier's assists put in just about as much contribution in the goals as a penalty scorer/tapin scorer contributes towards a goal. But we dont say things like goals are a rubbish stat because some of the goals are just pens or tap ins.

Usually the most creative players tend to have the most assists. Hazard, Sterling, Eriksen , Ozil (yuck), etc always get tons of assists not by pure luck, but because they make the most goalscoring chances.

 

[Spurs321]

Son has now scored 102 goals for top flight clubs (if you include Europe & Cup matches). Here are the first 101 goals (doesn't include yesterdays) from his time in Germany & England:

 

[Luvf]

Hard one to judge. City totally dominate the oppo and mostly camp on the oppo box, in order to break down the opposition it's players like Son/Sane that are required, however, I think both actually are best suited to games that are a bit more stretched, with space to run into. So, I think the way we are set up right now actually suits Son more than hinders him. Whenever I watched Sane he's been at his most unstoppable when he's running from a deeper position with the ball, when he's turned and committed the defence.

Son is an adapter and survivor among many things with so many different weapons and skill sets in football. You probably know as much I do. The notion he is suited more here than City or any other team is pointless because he is here now. The front need to pass better period. Without out that what the club will have is the same game just in a brand new stadium

 

[Guido 🇺🇦]

Son is an adapter and survivor among many things with so many different weapons and skill sets in football. You probably know as much I do. The notion he is suited more here than City or any other team is pointless because he is here now. The front need to pass better period. Without out that what the club will have is the same game just in a brand new stadium

Not pinning my hat on any one style of play, he has scored goals when a team play a low block against us, but both he and Sane are more effective IMO against a side that leaves spaces for them to exploit. Both are excellent at getting behind the oppo, I think Son's (and Sane) are more effective/dangerous when doing this as opposed to a team that's compact and sitting deep.

 

[Luvf]

Not pinning my hat on any one style of play, he has scored goals when a team play a low block against us, but both he and Sane are more effective IMO against a side that leaves spaces for them to exploit. Both are excellent at getting behind the oppo, I think Son's (and Sane) are more effective/dangerous when doing this as opposed to a team that's compact and sitting deep.

Both Son and Sane are excellent players. Its like gold or platinum when you start nitpicking over players like these. It doesn't matter which team or system they play in. I mean it matters but what's more important would be whether they can pass to each other and make themselves harder to defend. Without better passing Spurs not good enough. Awfully good but not enough if anyone would count championships and trophies

 

[RealCoolYid]

And the fact that he opens up an Asian Market for Tottenham Hotspur TM wasn't part of Levy's thought process

But small fry opening up an Asian market, mind you I'd be interested in seeing what they sell, is it local ?

 

[BangkokSpud]

Son has four years experience on Sane and it shows .... there is vastly more to Son's game than to Sane's at this stage of their careers ... who's better? tough call ... but who would you rather have?

Career wise Son has 329 appearances 102 goals ... plus 74 caps and 23 goals ... he's played high level football in two top Leagues, Asian Cups, World Cups ... and he's still only 26, his best years are the next four ...

Sane has 162 appearances 42 goals ... plus 17 caps and 2 goals .... like Son he's played high level football in two top Leagues but that's where the similarities end .... at 22 he has many years ahead of him, they could be Ronaldoesque years or they could be Wilshite years, who knows?

Today, right now ... I'd take Son every time ... and he's not half German half French I mean who wants that?