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Wasn’t there talk that the two test events had to be completed a month before the first game in the new WHL? If we want to be in by Dortmund we gotta get a move on. Has there been any more on the test events?
 
Wasn’t there talk that the two test events had to be completed a month before the first game in the new WHL? If we want to be in by Dortmund we gotta get a move on. Has there been any more on the test events?
There was a ex Spurs director on The Spurs Show talking about mid January, so that will leave things very tight...
 
Wasn’t there talk that the two test events had to be completed a month before the first game in the new WHL? If we want to be in by Dortmund we gotta get a move on. Has there been any more on the test events?
I don’t think so - I think the only requirement is two test events and a safety certificate, but I could be mistaken. However, because of the logistics, I think the first test event would need to be held about a month prior to opening in order for everything to be sorted.

I believe we have to alert opposing clubs a month in advance of where the match is to be held, so we will know about Newcastle about Jan 2 and Dortmund around the Man United match.
 
I don’t think so - I think the only requirement is two test events and a safety certificate, but I could be mistaken. However, because of the logistics, I think the first test event would need to be held about a month prior to opening in order for everything to be sorted.

I believe we have to alert opposing clubs a month in advance of where the match is to be held, so we will know about Newcastle about Jan 2 and Dortmund around the Man United match.

Last Spurs pronouncement said they would get an update on progress around 7 January, with the implication Spurs would make an announcement about where some or all matches after the ManU would be......and we hope they say something about test events.
 
I despise giving the Guardian a click so here's the link and a copy/paste of the article text.
As you may be unsurprised to hear, they're shit stirring with actually rather little material - also, isn't Martin Bell the loony guy who's tried to stop Spurs' new stadium at every move?

London streets ‘too dirty’ for super-rich football giant Spurs

England’s top Premier League teams attract huge crowds and legions of devoted supporters around the globe. But closer to home they are facing charges of behaving with bullying arrogance towards the communities from which they sprang.

Tottenham Hotspur, the world’s 11th richest club, plays in one of Britain’s most deprived areas. The club has angered locals by protesting that the streets around its new £850m stadium are too dirty for fans and could damage its ambitions to establish “one of the world’s most unique entertainment venues”.

Confidential memos from senior figures in the Labour-run London borough of Haringey, seen by the Observer, highlight Spurs’ complaints that excessive levels of litter and fly-tipping in Tottenham will have a negative impact on the image of their as yet unopened ground, and that the local authority, which has suffered £280m of cuts over the past decade, should pay for cleaning after matches and events.

One memo, written following a meeting between club officials and the council, states: “Spurs were very dismissive as to the current state/appearance of Tottenham and implied that this was not an acceptable environment for their new stadium and supporters.” Another notes: “Spurs as you may be aware quite an aggressive operator [sic]. When the question of all the extra cleaning needed was raised and who would fund it it was made very clear that it would not be paid for by Spurs.”

Residents’ groups have accused Spurs of being insensitive and arrogant towards a community with chronic social problems. Council officials have estimated that it would cost the club about £8,000 to pay for street cleaning after each match or event, which they say Spurs could easily afford. The club had a recent annual turnover of £306m, with £58m profit. The average annual salary for a first-team player is £3.5m, while striker Harry Kane signed a six-year, £62.4m contract in June. One senior Labour councillor, who did not wish to be named, said: “With bigger crowds and more events, extra cleaning is going to be required around the stadium. It’s only fair that Spurs pay for it because they will be generating increased income compared to what they made at their old White Hart Lane ground.”

According to another memo, Spurs are also demanding the council pay £500,000 to resurface part of Tottenham High Road that leads to the ground “as its appearance is detrimental to the street scene around the stadium”.

Campaigner Martin Bell said: “The attitude of Spurs beggars belief and is insulting to the people of Tottenham. The club has a legal and moral responsibility to ensure the area around their new stadium is kept clean because ultimately they are the ones who are really benefiting from it.”

Haringey Council refused to comment on the row. A spokesman said: “Street cleansing has always been part of the local area management plan requirements for the new stadium. Haringey and Tottenham Hotspur are working closely together to ensure the launch of the new stadium is a success.”

A Spurs spokesman said: “Post-match clean-up cost at White Hart Lane was covered by the club’s business rates. The larger new stadium will bring with it significantly larger business rates payments, which will more than cover increased post-match clean-up costs.”
 
I despise giving the Guardian a click so here's the link and a copy/paste of the article text.
As you may be unsurprised to hear, they're shit stirring with actually rather little material - also, isn't Martin Bell the loony guy who's tried to stop Spurs' new stadium at every move?

London streets ‘too dirty’ for super-rich football giant Spurs

England’s top Premier League teams attract huge crowds and legions of devoted supporters around the globe. But closer to home they are facing charges of behaving with bullying arrogance towards the communities from which they sprang.

Tottenham Hotspur, the world’s 11th richest club, plays in one of Britain’s most deprived areas. The club has angered locals by protesting that the streets around its new £850m stadium are too dirty for fans and could damage its ambitions to establish “one of the world’s most unique entertainment venues”.

Confidential memos from senior figures in the Labour-run London borough of Haringey, seen by the Observer, highlight Spurs’ complaints that excessive levels of litter and fly-tipping in Tottenham will have a negative impact on the image of their as yet unopened ground, and that the local authority, which has suffered £280m of cuts over the past decade, should pay for cleaning after matches and events.

One memo, written following a meeting between club officials and the council, states: “Spurs were very dismissive as to the current state/appearance of Tottenham and implied that this was not an acceptable environment for their new stadium and supporters.” Another notes: “Spurs as you may be aware quite an aggressive operator [sic]. When the question of all the extra cleaning needed was raised and who would fund it it was made very clear that it would not be paid for by Spurs.”

Residents’ groups have accused Spurs of being insensitive and arrogant towards a community with chronic social problems. Council officials have estimated that it would cost the club about £8,000 to pay for street cleaning after each match or event, which they say Spurs could easily afford. The club had a recent annual turnover of £306m, with £58m profit. The average annual salary for a first-team player is £3.5m, while striker Harry Kane signed a six-year, £62.4m contract in June. One senior Labour councillor, who did not wish to be named, said: “With bigger crowds and more events, extra cleaning is going to be required around the stadium. It’s only fair that Spurs pay for it because they will be generating increased income compared to what they made at their old White Hart Lane ground.”

According to another memo, Spurs are also demanding the council pay £500,000 to resurface part of Tottenham High Road that leads to the ground “as its appearance is detrimental to the street scene around the stadium”.

Campaigner Martin Bell said: “The attitude of Spurs beggars belief and is insulting to the people of Tottenham. The club has a legal and moral responsibility to ensure the area around their new stadium is kept clean because ultimately they are the ones who are really benefiting from it.”

Haringey Council refused to comment on the row. A spokesman said: “Street cleansing has always been part of the local area management plan requirements for the new stadium. Haringey and Tottenham Hotspur are working closely together to ensure the launch of the new stadium is a success.”

A Spurs spokesman said: “Post-match clean-up cost at White Hart Lane was covered by the club’s business rates. The larger new stadium will bring with it significantly larger business rates payments, which will more than cover increased post-match clean-up costs.”

Yes, Martin Bell is/was someone with an agenda.

I notice neither he or the Guardian doesn't make any comment about Spurs bringing an extra 26,000 people (and their spend) every match into the area - largest employer and generator of wealth in Tottenham.

And that street cleaning is the responsibility of the local council.
 
Yes, Martin Bell is/was someone with an agenda.

I notice neither he or the Guardian doesn't make any comment about Spurs bringing an extra 26,000 people (and their spend) every match into the area - largest employer and generator of wealth in Tottenham.

And that street cleaning is the responsibility of the local council.
Any excuse to whine and virtue signal by the Guardian. Anyone following the project knows what spurs does for the community/money put in but they spin the headline for that story to paint a completely different picture.
 
I despise giving the Guardian a click so here's the link and a copy/paste of the article text.
As you may be unsurprised to hear, they're shit stirring with actually rather little material - also, isn't Martin Bell the loony guy who's tried to stop Spurs' new stadium at every move?

London streets ‘too dirty’ for super-rich football giant Spurs

England’s top Premier League teams attract huge crowds and legions of devoted supporters around the globe. But closer to home they are facing charges of behaving with bullying arrogance towards the communities from which they sprang.

Tottenham Hotspur, the world’s 11th richest club, plays in one of Britain’s most deprived areas. The club has angered locals by protesting that the streets around its new £850m stadium are too dirty for fans and could damage its ambitions to establish “one of the world’s most unique entertainment venues”.

Confidential memos from senior figures in the Labour-run London borough of Haringey, seen by the Observer, highlight Spurs’ complaints that excessive levels of litter and fly-tipping in Tottenham will have a negative impact on the image of their as yet unopened ground, and that the local authority, which has suffered £280m of cuts over the past decade, should pay for cleaning after matches and events.

One memo, written following a meeting between club officials and the council, states: “Spurs were very dismissive as to the current state/appearance of Tottenham and implied that this was not an acceptable environment for their new stadium and supporters.” Another notes: “Spurs as you may be aware quite an aggressive operator [sic]. When the question of all the extra cleaning needed was raised and who would fund it it was made very clear that it would not be paid for by Spurs.”

Residents’ groups have accused Spurs of being insensitive and arrogant towards a community with chronic social problems. Council officials have estimated that it would cost the club about £8,000 to pay for street cleaning after each match or event, which they say Spurs could easily afford. The club had a recent annual turnover of £306m, with £58m profit. The average annual salary for a first-team player is £3.5m, while striker Harry Kane signed a six-year, £62.4m contract in June. One senior Labour councillor, who did not wish to be named, said: “With bigger crowds and more events, extra cleaning is going to be required around the stadium. It’s only fair that Spurs pay for it because they will be generating increased income compared to what they made at their old White Hart Lane ground.”

According to another memo, Spurs are also demanding the council pay £500,000 to resurface part of Tottenham High Road that leads to the ground “as its appearance is detrimental to the street scene around the stadium”.

Campaigner Martin Bell said: “The attitude of Spurs beggars belief and is insulting to the people of Tottenham. The club has a legal and moral responsibility to ensure the area around their new stadium is kept clean because ultimately they are the ones who are really benefiting from it.”

Haringey Council refused to comment on the row. A spokesman said: “Street cleansing has always been part of the local area management plan requirements for the new stadium. Haringey and Tottenham Hotspur are working closely together to ensure the launch of the new stadium is a success.”

A Spurs spokesman said: “Post-match clean-up cost at White Hart Lane was covered by the club’s business rates. The larger new stadium will bring with it significantly larger business rates payments, which will more than cover increased post-match clean-up costs.”

So Spurs does pay for the cleaning from its Business rates.
 
Yes, Martin Bell is/was someone with an agenda.

Martin Bell has spent his life looking for things to be outraged about so he can feel smug and sanctimonious. Disregard.

Tottenham's stadium is kick starting the regeneration of Haringey, a part of London that badly needs it. It's pouring a huge amount of money into the community and has been for most of it's existence.
As others have rightly pointed out, many of the assertions are plain wrong. Why doesn't the guardian go after clubs that are ruining football, like the manchester clubs?

Oh no, can't do that. Can't piss off all the customers can you.

Fuck all these idiots.
 
So Spurs does pay for the cleaning from its Business rates.
That’s the bit that I immediately seized on. Increased business rates should pay for the increased road sweeping post match. If it doesn’t, then the business rates have been miscalculated. How is that Spurs’ fault?
Seems to me like the council are trying to screw money out of the club for something it’s already paying for. And that cheeky fucker Bell (end)? I’d actually like to meet him down a dark, litter strewn alleyway.
 
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