No levy would refuse to buy a gun too expensive but Jose would get a pea shooter so similar to what is happening now.
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Haven't read the thread but I can guess what people are saying.
My view :
Played to not concede and almost worked. But showed them too much respect. They played like a team new to the CL without fear as we expected. But my biggest gripe was the tactical naivety.
We knew we were going to be without son and kane but we just went back to Harry Redknapp days of square pegs in round holes.
Lucas isn't a CF. He needs to play on the wing. We've done this experiment before. Bergwijn is better suited to holding the ball up.
Playing Winks as pretty much the only holding midfielder doesn't work. We've done this experiment before.
The full backs are just tragic. Tanganga has played LB, CB and RB and done well in all 3 positions but can't get into the team ahead of Davies and Aurier. I mean what the fuck man.
I've been a critic of Sanchez but he immense yesterday and he bailed out Aurier so many fucking times. Without him and Lloris they could have scored more.
But those chances were down to this fucked up hybrid 3 at the back with 1 fullback pushed forward. Its so easy to break. Just ping it in the space that Aurier leaves behind which means the rest of the defence need to shift across. Added that you don't have a DM to fill the gap or track runners through midfield means they can create all the chances they want. Also it's made is so unbalanced as Davies never crossed the halfway line. The only time he did was the cross for Lucas header at the end. The back line tactic is killing us defensively and going forward.
Also point out that another team playing 3 at the back and 2 wingbacks has dominated us. Chelsea did it and will do so again on Saturday. I hope JM fixes this problem because I'll be fuming if come Saturday we don't get a result because of these tactics.
My view :
Played to not concede and almost worked. But showed them too much respect. They played like a team new to the CL without fear as we expected. But my biggest gripe was the tactical naivety.
We knew we were going to be without son and kane but we just went back to Harry Redknapp days of square pegs in round holes.
Lucas isn't a CF. He needs to play on the wing. We've done this experiment before. Bergwijn is better suited to holding the ball up.
Playing Winks as pretty much the only holding midfielder doesn't work. We've done this experiment before.
The full backs are just tragic. Tanganga has played LB, CB and RB and done well in all 3 positions but can't get into the team ahead of Davies and Aurier. I mean what the fuck man.
I've been a critic of Sanchez but he immense yesterday and he bailed out Aurier so many fucking times. Without him and Lloris they could have scored more.
But those chances were down to this fucked up hybrid 3 at the back with 1 fullback pushed forward. Its so easy to break. Just ping it in the space that Aurier leaves behind which means the rest of the defence need to shift across. Added that you don't have a DM to fill the gap or track runners through midfield means they can create all the chances they want. Also it's made is so unbalanced as Davies never crossed the halfway line. The only time he did was the cross for Lucas header at the end. The back line tactic is killing us defensively and going forward.
Also point out that another team playing 3 at the back and 2 wingbacks has dominated us. Chelsea did it and will do so again on Saturday. I hope JM fixes this problem because I'll be fuming if come Saturday we don't get a result because of these tactics.
He asked for a two year contract, Levy only offered one due to his age. No player in his thirties would accept that as a year later that two year contract then becomes harder to get.
What annoys me the most is knowing he didnt have a striker he still set up with that low block 442. It's always going to be a struggle for moura and alli up there but he gave them no chance. They were totally isolated. It's almost like he set up to accentuate the problem.
If there was a plan with having two up then I can be comfortable with this. What I mean by a plan is if we had identified a CB to target, have Dele & Lucas target that weak link, both play on his shoulder, have the log balls target specifically this CB, or if he is not good in possession then allowing him to take the ball before pressing him, or have the ball played down his channel all night and run him into the ground.
There was nothing, just an aimless hoof up the field. If the long ball found either Dele or Lucas it was them that were targeted, always with at least two men on them within a second, sometimes it was 3 players.
I sat in the South last night for a change - my ST is in the North - and I enjoyed the atmosphere whenever a song was sung, good view and good people around (bar the 2 in front who just talked to each all game, what is it with people??).
I also enjoyed the atmosphere in the market place and bars behind the south before the game - they were much much better than those areas in the north.
I also enjoyed my Chick-King breasts.
I also enjoyed Gio - he's going to be in our midfield for a few years - and seeing Hugo getting back to his best.
And finally I really enjoyed "stand up if you love Tottenham", which is much better than the "hate" alternative - I hope we're finally moving on from that one.
Most of the rest of it was poor.
I also enjoyed the atmosphere in the market place and bars behind the south before the game - they were much much better than those areas in the north.
I also enjoyed my Chick-King breasts.
I also enjoyed Gio - he's going to be in our midfield for a few years - and seeing Hugo getting back to his best.
And finally I really enjoyed "stand up if you love Tottenham", which is much better than the "hate" alternative - I hope we're finally moving on from that one.
Most of the rest of it was poor.
1) Playing a striker with a lower goals per game ratio than the player he replaces - Son, Dele makes us worse, it's why Llorente was only used as a last resort.
2) Because our history off signing low price strikers is a disaster .... you know the list.
3) It is a massive fail that Spurs, Barcelona, Chelsea and Man Utd all didn't get strikers, worse for us as we've needed one for 18 months, however they don't grow on trees, Bergwijn adds to our options but granted he's not a specialist striker .... who was available?
We do need a striker let's not even pretend we don't, what we don't need is another "Llorente" level striker who adds very little, that was Spurs 2017 we are a whole new level now. This summer we must sign a quality young striker to play with or as back-up to Kane ... but they don't grow on trees, and the very best will cost >100M .... that's not going to be easy.
Prime bullshit Bill, Aston Villa were taken over and the new owners refused to sell Grealish ... facts not fiction Bill ... Villa then achieved promotion and any chance of signing Grealish cheap vanished. We made a 25m bid they laughed us off.
Aston Villa will not sell Jack Grealish cheaply after new investment in club
Do you honestly think Villa didn't have other interested buyers willing to pay more than 25m? was Grealish some sort of well kept secret only Spurs knew about?
It's the same as claiming Willian Jose was available for 22m ... if so there would have been a dozen buyers, he has a buy-out clause of €70m so why would Sociedad sell for two thirds off? by all accounts they wanted €25m up front with add-ons rising to €40m, he's just not proven to be that good.
Barca could have bought him yesterday by paying the buy out clause, they went for Braithwaite instead.
We were said to be scouting Guirassy last weekend. Plays for Amiens. Plenty of pace, works hard, good technique and a nuisance with his back to goal. Price said to be £18m. And I am giving him my seal of approval.
Just to wind you up for laughs ........
How many fit starting keepers would we have if both our first and second choice keepers got long term injuries at the same time?
Would we be left with a junior player who had never started an EPL game having to step up ... sound familiar Kane/Son/Parrott same as Hugo/Gazza/Whiteman .... that was us until we got Vorm as a free agent, how many 36 year old free agent strikers would you like to sign up?
Imagine any position at any club where your number one and two player is injured ... shit happens
We need another striker but no club has three top line players for every position, not even City.
Is that the same A Madrid that just beat the unbeatable Liverpool that are dominating the EPL?
Mourinho go 2nd EPL (arguably 1st) and won Europa League with a crap united squad. Won the league with Chelsea before that.
Jose has always played the tactic that he feels will win the match. That can be parking the bus; or all out attack.
People labelling tactics as outdated are simply regurgitating crap from pundits on TV; who are simply being critical to make themselves sound clever - can somebody remind me how Shearer and Neville performed as football coaches ?
said a similar thing in the Jose thread.
There is a sect of fans that can see that even with shiny new toys, we are going to continue to play a conservative game until the later stages of the game. Very hard to watch, but proven to get results. Then there is the other sect that thinks with shiny new toys, a new breed of Jose is going to come out, a Pep/Koop hybrid or a more progressive version of this Jose.
I just don’t see the latters POV. If he gets his DM and a big body up front to support Kane when he needs a rest, we are going to be even tighter in the back and more focused on quick attacks via the flanks and the target man.
And so the debate continues. Style over Substance...
The catch is we have invested in a manager that prefers the latter and thus, we as fans, have to put up with it for the time being. I don’t foresee a long Jose stint, but I sure do miss the days of high intensity football that had us challenging for the PL and in Europe.
Well another side to the story. But i believe we could have got him for a reasonable price back when. Who is Bill?
The font of all fake news from Spain ... quotes the Spanish media like they were gods when in fact they are on a par with the Sun and the Daily Mail ... or probably even worse more bullshit than Montana.
Transfer Gossip is great fun we all get involved, but when the facts are know after the window closes (as with Grealish) to keep referring to crazy media reports from before as if they were still 'facts' that carries no credibility.
The whole transfer business has turned on it's head, clubs no longer have massive scouting networks of people scouring the globe, instead they use freelancers who supply the same player profiles to dozens of clubs. In most cases it's now the agent supplying the profile going to the club and offering his players, any decent youngster now has an agent from about 10 onward ... child exploitation?
There are no 'secret deals' unless the money is scary huge, agents will always try and play clubs off against each other - it's why you get the BS about Eriksen about signing for X,Y,Z club when only Italy and Spain were ever going to be his destination, and even then only three or four clubs. It's just agent hype to push up the price.
Players and their agents have nearly all the power, days of Chairmen doing secret deals are long gone, Levy tried it with Bale and the agent blew him out the water. We use the same system as most big clubs, a transfer committee agrees on the player type we want for example - 23-25, striker, good hold up, good in the air, good presser - then those details go to freelance scouts and player agents, who then make their pitch.
I'm told Steve Hitchin gets literally hundreds of player details a week from every corner of the globe ... sorting the gems from the shit is now the real skill.
Sorry i could not read that wall of text. It just makes no sense.
Dude you keep hitting the excuse level.
We play crapsville football for 70 mins nearly every game. It's boring , long ball , dated and We should have been 5 nil down before we even looked liked we had any urgency.
No doubt we would be better with those 2 back but Mourinhos football is from the dark age .
Show me a game where Mourinho has been able to play his strongest XI to date yet Chester my man.
Until Mourinho has decent depth, a couple more of his own players in and the ability to utilise a front four of Bergwijn, Dele, Son & Kane I refuse to slate the man for patching together a team that didn't win for nearly 1 year away from home yet has pulled a 12 point top 4 deficit back to just a single point.
Mourinho won't get to roll out a first XI similar to Lloris, Aurier, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Davies, Winks, Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Dele, Son & Kane until next season now. With inevitable transfers to be made he probably never willl get to roll that XI out boss man.
Honestly, do you not think the below strike partnership, both being out now for the foreseeable wouldn't impact any team for the worse?
It's a time for patience, we as Spurs fans say that too often but alas, what can we do without such potency? 12 cup finals in the league now, it's going to be some grind.
The 6th and 19th most valuable forwards in world football, both out for the season. It's so damaging not just for results but for how we'll play until the end of the campaign:
Most valuable players
He's been in the job for 3 months or so it must be and already he's had to make do without Lloris, Davies, Sissoko, Ndombele, Lamela, Son & Kane. Guts completely ripped out of any kind of cohesion he could have given us yet we keep chipping away and getting those much needed points. Sometimes salvaging games means more than pretty football.
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Do you need private reading tuition? I believe you'll find being able to read is quite important on a written forum.
Just looking at the posts with pictures you really must try harder.