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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

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Do I want better than we currently have? Obviously I do.... I only see Lloris, Alderweireld, Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Son & Kane as good enough right now but I don't mind Aurier and Davies. Rating highly and being content with are two different things.
I thought Toby's contract was a bad idea. On Serge and Ben I would recruit on top of and try to move both if the option came up and better players were available.

The reason why I take the stance of 1, maybe 2 for immediate impact but perhaps 2-3 to integrate is because I think it's practical to expect from a club like us. Question Todd..... what's our transfer budget going to look like this summer?
So we can't do it because of money...because big money will be needed to pay for big time players? Am I right? Fundamental disconnect here. You are still on the "players I've heard of = good = big money" trip. There are other players. 90% of the players in your list you didn't know about last year so perhaps we should focus on players you haven't heard of a year before you would have heard of them. Money saved!

I have no idea of what our budget is and neither does anyone else. I saw Spursidol say a couple of pages ago IIRC from his viewing of financials there might be 100M this summer. I think I have that right but if I don't please forgive. With the outs added to that we could get 5 very nice players but very few that you or many others have heard about.

From what I can tell we need to consider the HG quotas somewhat withnour current squad so it all plays a part in my way of thinking.
Yeah, and getting rid of players that are not good enough to be taking a foreign spot should be in your thinking too. And that is why Ben, Dier, Serge and a few others should be looked at with more scrutiny beyond are they 'fine'.

As for my knowledge of what's out there? I like the look of Mukiele, Atal from what I've seen, Hakimi if he isn't wanted at Real looks fantastic, Aarons has potential but I'm concerned about his physique and Mazraoui looked pretty good at Ajax but seems for have been overtaken by Dest this season a player I haven't seen enough to pass judgement on (and I ain't sure if he's a player still trying to figure out where his best position is) Porro looked a real prospect I mentioned him last year sometime but Man City pounced so he's scratched off the list, Cucurella I haven't seen much of but I know we've been linked and Klostermann looks proper but I fancy he'll end up as Bayern. Other RB's don't spring to mind at this time of the day/ night and off the cuff but then hey, ain't a scout so knowledge can and will be limited mate.
So minimal beyond the whispers of the forum or the a CL game taken in here or there? You could have just said that.

I'd love top players, I just don't know if we can knock our money about like we'd all like to see, hence my young ones that can hopefully overtake the current guard here and there.
What's a 'top player'? Please define it for me since you keep going back to the well. yes, all those players you've mentioned will cost money because their profiles are high enough that you've heard about them. That doesn't mean that lower profile ie players yet to make their presence known aren't out there for significantly less money. Would you have know about Mukiele had we not played RBL? See? And he was 16M during the Sammy-summer. Everybody is a nobody until they become a somebody. We need proper structure and scouting to pick out the nobodies since we can't financially compete for the somebodies. But Mou may not like that.
 
I thought Toby's contract was a bad idea. On Serge and Ben I would recruit on top of and try to move both if the option came up and better players were available.


So we can't do it because of money...because big money will be needed to pay for big time players? Am I right? Fundamental disconnect here. You are still on the "players I've heard of = good = big money" trip. There are other players. 90% of the players in your list you didn't know about last year so perhaps we should focus on players you haven't heard of a year before you would have heard of them. Money saved!

I have no idea of what our budget is and neither does anyone else. I saw Spursidol say a couple of pages ago IIRC from his viewing of financials there might be 100M this summer. I think I have that right but if I don't please forgive. With the outs added to that we could get 5 very nice players but very few that you or many others have heard about.


Yeah, and getting rid of players that are not good enough to be taking a foreign spot should be in your thinking too. And that is why Ben, Dier, Serge and a few others should be looked at with more scrutiny beyond are they 'fine'.


So minimal beyond the whispers of the forum or the a CL game taken in here or there? You could have just said that.


What's a 'top player'? Please define it for me since you keep going back to the well. yes, all those players you've mentioned will cost money because their profiles are high enough that you've heard about them. That doesn't mean that lower profile ie players yet to make their presence known aren't out there for significantly less money. Would you have know about Mukiele had we not played RBL? See? And he was 16M during the Sammy-summer. Everybody is a nobody until they become a somebody. We need proper structure and scouting to pick out the nobodies since we can't financially compete for the somebodies. But Mou may not like that.

Obviously there's a world of talent out there I am unaware of, just like there's plenty out there that you're not aware of Todd. It doesn't mean they will or will not end up better than we have or could get.

As for my knowledge being minimal whispers on the forum or CL games. Please see the thread below, a thread I actually started with a few players I mentioned January 2019 if that helps mate:


I watch whatever I can, Serie A via SkyBet, Bundesliga and Ligue 1 on BT Sports, Europa League, Champions League, the youth league, PL obviously but I also have a life where I have to pay my way and my career isn't in sport and doesn't involve the scouting of players. I watch whatever I can as it's a sport I'm passionate about. If I see someone that catches my eye I'll keep a look out for him and whenever I know they are on and I am free to watch them.

If as has been mentioned by yourself and the other poster that £100m is available then my stance would be different but I'd be surprised if we do commit that if that excludes money in for transfers out. I'd love it but as you said nobody knows what we have available mate. We all want good things for the club, safe to say it's a transitional time.
 
Might be worth remembering this dilemma ... still not decided but could have a massive impact

The FA want to increase the requirement for home-grown players from 8 to 12 thus reducing the number of foreign players all top-flight clubs are permitted in their 25 man squads from 17 to 13 - an idea that clubs are strongly against.

A possible compromise is 13 foreign players with FA permits plus 3 with no FA permits, such as Davies and Dier who could then be counted as homegrown .... still even that would reduce foreign players from 17 to 16 .... no club is going to spend 100's of millions on foreign players that in a few months they might not be able to use.

Bear in mind that the FA want to chnage the under-21 rule to under-18 that would impact Fernandes, Sanchez and Foyth adding them to our foreign players list, although both Bergwijn and Foyth are 22 come next season anyway,.

The FA want to do this to bolster the national squad, fair enough that's there job, the clubs argue it will make them less competitive in the world game and thus devalue the EPL ...

There must be a solution as post Brexit the rules can't logically stay the same, this maybe one of the reasons clubs were reluctant to spend heavily in January - why sign big foreign stars if there's a chance they can't play for you next season?
 
Don't understand your thinking behind your post, so here's why the facts might arrive at different thoughts.

Not sure why you think we wont compete for younger players and will only be buying old men - these are the players who joined the first team squad in the Summer and January Transfer Windows :

1. Ndombele - £55m (CM)
2 Lo Celso - £41m (AM/CM)
3. Bergwijn - £27m (AM)
4. Clarke - £10m (AM)
5. Sessegnon - £25m (LB/LW)
6. Gedson - £ 4m (DM) (18 month loan fee only)
7. Tanganga - Free (CB/RB/LB) Academy product
Total £162m

Spot the player there who is more than age 24 !

Of course if an older player comes up who fills a need for us - Foster (GK) at Watford as a no 2 or 3 GK for example - why not ?

But I think you'll find in the summer we once again bring in a number of younger players both for the first team, and indeed maybe one or two to develop for the future if the opportunities are there.

And given that the only significant recent sale was Eriksen at a little under £20m (and maybe the sale of Dembele at US$10m) it means the club funded £100m+ of new players, mainly in the summer. So its quite possible (and even likely to continue to make Spurs an attractive club for players, fans and investors alike) the club will invest another £100m or so in the summer, regardless of your views on the owners are.
Fair enough. Good points. I just have no trust or faith in Levy and co. I really believe that as long as the money rolls in, they simply will buy bargain basement players because the bottom line is the most important thing, not the team. I hope you're right and I'm completely wrong but we had a TW with nothing a few seasons ago. We absolutely blew the Bale money. It's very difficult to keep faith and trust these oily bastards.
 
It's just dispair, leave him alone. If you've not felt its bitter tang lately your not being honest
Same challenge to everyone else peddling this cobblers....

Show us where/when they have taken a any money out of the club or PLEASE for the love of all the gods stop bullshitting in the name of ramping up the misery!


Of course they'll sell at a profit... Look at the commercial growth of the club since they took over. :mourfacepalm:
I can't. I'm not an accountant.....😁. It's all based on the end product.
 
Yeah we certainly do need to shift a few. I lean towards KWP, Rose, Vertonghen, Foyth and Wanyma having to go, Dier will be offski if he doesn't get things sorted with his form, position, stature at the club and contract. Lamela? May as well keep him as nobody will touch him for the money we and he would want. Will one or two also get edged? I trust all are getting heavily scrutinised at the moment with each passing day by the gaffer. A very intriguing summer ahead for all sorts of reasons Bangkok.

Completely agree here, although I think contract expiry dates will be scrutinised and considered more heavily this summer after the Eriksen debacle. Come the summer Dier will be on 1 year and Lamela, Foyth, Aurier and Gazza all with 2 years left.

I think given the HG quota puzzle to solve in the next transfer window , plus JM’s liking to him, I think Dier will get a stay of execution through a new contract to secure value on him across the next 12-24 months.

The guys on 2 years left for me, are all not quite good enough for where we want to be as a squad and with Foyth still being young, Lamela & Aurier still the right side of 30 getting rid now to secure the most we can makes sense. Someone like Ben Foster to replace Gazza also works given his experience, and being able to swap a HG player in for a overseas player frees up another overseas spot in our squad.
 
I reckon this summer will be one of the biggest overhauls we have seen at Spurs.

JM won't take any shit after what he's seen this season. Preseason will be brutal.
 
Interested to know what everyone’s preferred CB partnership is for the rest of the season? The rotation here doesn’t work IMO.

I imagine Toby and Sanchez would be favourite?
 
Roy Keane as our scout? Think about it. No slacker would survive and no bums would be signed. They wouldn't make to the medical. Half funny and serious this
 
Same challenge to everyone else peddling this cobblers....

Show us where/when they have taken a any money out of the club or PLEASE for the love of all the gods stop bullshitting in the name of ramping up the misery!


Of course they'll sell at a profit... Look at the commercial growth of the club since they took over. :mourfacepalm:
Whose money is used to pay the loans back for the stadium?
When the club pays back the loans and gets sold who would be receiving the extra money for having a bigger stadium?
 
From the players who whinged that Poch was working them too hard??
I don’t necessarily mean fitness wise, although that does need some attention. I mean more tactics and drilling in his methods.

If I’m honest I’d sell Lucas, Vertonghen, Wanyama, Rose, Gazzaniga and a couple others. We need a big changein personnel and mentiality.

Build the squad around Sanchez, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Son and Kane. New DM, RB, CB and ST are priorities. Maybe a new CAM and CM for good fortune.
 
Whose money is used to pay the loans back for the stadium?
When the club pays back the loans and gets sold who would be receiving the extra money for having a bigger stadium?

As I've already acknowledged they will eventually make a big commercial gain upon sale, but the stadium, training ground etc. that the clubs profits have funded will still remain a club asset after they have left....

So how does that fit the "ENIC are stealing all the money" narrative?

This isnt Gold & Sullivan
 
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I don’t necessarily mean fitness wise, although that does need some attention. I mean more tactics and drilling in his methods.

If I’m honest I’d sell Lucas, Vertonghen, Wanyama, Rose, Gazzaniga and a couple others. We need a big changein personnel and mentiality.

Build the squad around Sanchez, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Son and Kane. New DM, RB, CB and ST are priorities. Maybe a new CAM and CM for good fortune.

I agree and I think once we secure a DM we are fully stocked in the central midfield options though;
New DM Lo Celso
Winks Ndombele
Sissoko Fernandes
Skipp Dier

CB to replace Jan, Tanganga takes Foyth’s position.

RB to replace Aurier, Aaron’s to replace KWP

LB is difficult to understand not knowing where JM stands on Sess for next season and with Rose and Jan leaving, relying on him and maybe even Cirkin is risky.

New DM to replace Wanyama, loan out Skipp.

Buy back up ST to Kane, a classic Mourinho big ol’ ugly brute of a player who can hold the ball up and bring others into play. Mitrovic maybe?
 
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