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Kind of like the Bale sale?
This next team could take 4/5 year's before it starts to go close to making an impact, will he wait that long mmmm probably not, then it's back to start again mode and so on.
Still at least the speculation is keeping everyone interested whilst the world is on pause.....
We shouldn’t be selling Kane until he tells us he wants to leave and even then only when he has two years left on his deal
However there are so many gaps in this squad that we will not plug because it will cost too much money , in theory selling Kane could help us improve overall by plugging these gaps but everyone knows we would just piss the money up the wall on a load of overhyped crap
Either way don’t expect us to be challenging for anything significant any time soon , think we need to come to terms with the fact that we are set for a return to the days before Poch where 5th or 6th was a good to great season
However there are so many gaps in this squad that we will not plug because it will cost too much money , in theory selling Kane could help us improve overall by plugging these gaps but everyone knows we would just piss the money up the wall on a load of overhyped crap
Either way don’t expect us to be challenging for anything significant any time soon , think we need to come to terms with the fact that we are set for a return to the days before Poch where 5th or 6th was a good to great season
As already alluded to, I'm more thinking another 2 years (ideally) from HK (he'll be 28 by then and still have a big move in him if he wants one).... I think 4-5 years is an over statement.... The players I mentioned would all be 4/5 years older by then and we'll be having the 'should we sell conversation' about them by then..... And let's face it, if the likes of GLC & Ndombele take another 5 years to make an impact, then they aren't the players we hope they'll be.
Such a cheerful fellow ...
do you ever log out of this place ?
Do you ever have anything positive to say?
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GLC and Ndombele are gifted players my concern is whether we find the right framing for them, there is a real player in the latter one a sort of Yaya toure type
Keep Kane and continue with the status quo: More likely than not, 5/6th place team for the next 2+ years then who knows what happens after that. Zero trophies likely.
Keep Kane, sell other players on the squad, try to strengthen in other areas: More likely, a failed attempt without the necessary big money transfer funds unless maybe we sell Sonny/Dele.
Sell Kane but keep rest of the team in tact: Not much changes than the status quo w/ Kane. More likely than not, 5-7th place team over the next 2+ years. Zero trophies likely.
Sell Kane and rebuild with some of our core parts: Have an opportunity to rebuild, strengthen weak areas, get younger AND possibly get better.
Keep Kane, sell other players on the squad, try to strengthen in other areas: More likely, a failed attempt without the necessary big money transfer funds unless maybe we sell Sonny/Dele.
Sell Kane but keep rest of the team in tact: Not much changes than the status quo w/ Kane. More likely than not, 5-7th place team over the next 2+ years. Zero trophies likely.
Sell Kane and rebuild with some of our core parts: Have an opportunity to rebuild, strengthen weak areas, get younger AND possibly get better.
Precious little to be positive about with regards to this club over the last few months
Feel free to put me on ignore mate if my pessimism is causing you distress though
DM & improving the back 4 should go a long way (esp. in terms of getting the best out of the above duo).
Given the options we have with Kane, Son, Dele, Lucas, Lamela, Bergwijn, GLC & Ndomble I don't think we need to reinvent the wheel gameplay-wise.
Why have we been able to score/win/get results without Kane? If he's really that important to the team, when he went down, we should have fallen off a cliff and had terrible results but if you look at the numbers, it's quite the opposite. Other players stepped up and we pulled through. The absence of Kane, hasn't been as detrimental to the overall team as many fans here think.
I must have missed all your joyful, glowing posts when things were going well.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh. 
I am deeply sorry that I can’t be the poster you want me to be and the one that you deserveI must have missed all your joyful, glowing posts when things were going well.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh.
I guess we are gonna have to go our separate ways
I am deeply sorry that I can’t be the poster you want me to be and the one that you deserve
I guess we are gonna have to go our separate ways
Laters. :shruggs:
Apart from obvious positions balance to the squad is key at the moment it's unbalanced.
From an article 11/01/20;
Win percentage is better with him, not to mention it appears the guys has played a lot of games before this recent injury.
Pretty good for someone who is past it if you ask me...
With Kane starting
Played: 187
Won: 107
Lost: 42
Drawn: 38
Goals for: 359
Points per game: 1.9
Win rate: 57.2%
Loss rate: 22.5%
Goals per game: 1.91
Without Kane starting
Played: 24
Won: 11
Lost: 7
Drawn: 6
Goals for: 31
Points per game: 1.6
Win rate: 45.8%
Loss rate: 29.2%
Goals per game: 1.29
Comparing Tottenham's league record with and without Harry Kane - Planet Football
Harry Kane has become one of the best strikers in the world at Tottenham, but what do the stats suggest about his influence on the team?
www.planetfootball.com
Which is the long mediocrity I was alluding to and you are mentioning one way to its genesis. Trying to appease a current star rarely works but it often happens in football. And if we set out to do it in this instance then you have illustrated here how it is likely to go wrong; players take time to gel, Mou self-combusts next season, new (old) players don't match Mou's replacement, Harry finally fucks off because it's going nowhere fast, etc etc. Before you look it's 5-6 seasons of nothingness gone.
Look at recent examples of ManU and Real. ManU spending big for immediate success has now taken them 8+ seasons to realize they should have accepted the rebuild and done it with an actual plan in the first place but they tried to shortcut it because "we're Man United" etc etc. Now they've tripped into this Ole-era but it's the best thing to happen to them in going on a decade...the rebuild they've needed since Fergie.
Real needed a rebuild but there was reluctance at the top. Genius move by Zidane made everyone see it and accept it. Now out go the stars of old looking for immediate success and in comes hungry young players without the spectre of old glories. But even RM were slow to notice the need for a rebuild.