Tottenham v Everton - Sunday September 13, 4:30pm

[sammyspurs]

If you are Levy in or Enic in then you have exactly what you deserve
Most expensive tickets
Most expensive kits
Amazon Documentary
NFL Highest paid chairman
Rubbish football team
0 ambition
1 league cup in 20 years
Poch gone

Congrats hope you're proud

Yet still better than Everton who’s owners you’re lauding.
One game doesn’t change the last 15 years

 

[Bill Madrid]

He is 80 percent of the time when he starts. Works hard though.

Big deal. When I used to go most weeks in the 80s there were those that moaned at Glenn (seriously) for not "working hard", the sort who worshipped "midfield beasts" who showed "passion", like "captain fantastic" Bryan Robson.

I couldn't give a rat's arse if Moura swanned about like a fairy cake if he did even half of what Hoddle could

 

[Airfixx]

Baffling how a bloke on 15 mil a year has showed zero coaching in nearly a year. I've got no idea what the coaching principles are. You give harry redknapp our squad and it's a guarantee the football is so much better over night. Watching all or nothing in the team meetings it's all about the opposition. Not about being on the front foot, tempo intensity. Correct me if I'm wrong but have we come from behind to win with Jose?

NLD.

 

[B-0-Sspurs]

That match bored me rigid. Those players should be bloody embarrassed for the lack of effort alone.

Can't think of one single positive to take from today

 

[scott]

So nothings changed under Jose then.

Been here for 10 months and we are still dogshit.

Players are mostly average.
Manager is a terrible fit & had better days. Owners just care about profit.
Levy just cares about profit.
No good youngsters coming through.
Only 1 striker.
Only 1 LB (allegedly).
No real creative CM.
No real DM.
No fans.
No silverware.
No CL.
No entertaining football.

But..........

We are doing things the RIGHT way!

 

[RealCoolYid]

Yeah I am delighted that I get to watch a midfield of Sissoko, winks and hoijberg

I cant wait for 37 more games of this

I think the only thing this midfield is missing is Danny drinkwater

 

[sudoku]

Surely, this is just poor managing then?

Whereas we had Aurier who DID have a pre-season.

That's a good debating point but we had a lot of "tired" players today.
Jose was keen (as was I and many Spurs fans) to see what the new players could do and I can understand the team selected.
Bit like the Sheff U game if the pen had been given, if Son passes to H instead of Dele or the Doc shot goes through Pickford's legs who knows what could have happened today.

 

[Airfixx]

Ceballos came in at like 80 mins. So you must have been watching from that point on. It was Elneny and Xhaka. Elneny is a DM more than anything and Xhaka has more bite than either of our CMs today. Don't like either of them, but let's not write over the facts.

It really comes down to management. And Arteta is progressive rather than Jose who is a fucking shit show.

Arteta seems to be selling solidity, organisation and fast breaking attacks..... Isn't that pretty much what it says in Jose's handbook?

 

[scott]

We look terrible. We were terrible last season. When will the penny drop. It isnt shit football to win things, its just shit football

Suprised so many thought we were guranteed trophies despite the players at jose's disposal.

 

[Airfixx]

Also in the RZ, right?

Which is my point.

"Come end of the season position is what matters."

(See point is was reponding to about "yeh, but 14th was only X points from top 6"....)

 

[scott]

No it's what quality players should do and what we don't possess.

It will always be the manager's fault until the owners/levy leave or massively change.

 

[Bill Madrid]

To be fair, I saw the interview and he prefaced his comments by saying multiple times that this is not an excuse in any way, the peformance was not good enough etc. He could not have made that clearer that he wasn't saying the result was down to this or that they could hide behind this in any way.

He was simply asked about the goal and correctly pointed out that it's surprising how with so many referees looking at this, that 5-6 yards were able to be gained and none of the officials noticed.

Yes, it was a great free kick and bad defending. But Jose is right that the distance does affect things.

I just finding annoying asf when the media twist things (i.e. "Jose blames the result on free kick position") when it's simply not true, because then everyone else just goes along with that.

There's plenty that can be criticised, but let's not pretend Jose tried to excuse the football because of the free kick positioning, because he didn't.

Fair enough, but if I'd been a hack there I'd have asked him...

Why, in the name of all that is holy and on all the evidence you've seen , would you think in all seriousnes that Moussa Sissoko was the man who would change things around?

 

[scott]

One goal behind and people are already melting.

Jesus Christ.

Afraid they were right too.

 

[Cravenspurs]

Arteta seems to be selling solidity, organisation and fast breaking attacks..... Isn't that pretty much what it says in Jose's handbook?

From what I have seen yes, but he also deploys a high line, a pretty aggressive press in certain areas of the pitch, and quick movement.

 

[Spaniel]

Still haven't replaced Modric and Dembele. No-one in this side is close to controlling the midfield.

Announce Eriksen.

 

[False 9]

Yet still better than Everton who’s owners you’re lauding.
One game doesn’t change the last 15 years

Everton owners have backed their man, our tight prick is simply stealing from us. And i bet they'll go and win a trophy before we do. 15 years of what? Glory?

 

[Reidy]

To be fair, I saw the interview and he prefaced his comments by saying multiple times that this is not an excuse in any way, the peformance was not good enough etc. He could not have made that clearer that he wasn't saying the result was down to this or that they could hide behind this in any way.

He was simply asked about the goal and correctly pointed out that it's surprising how with so many referees looking at this, that 5-6 yards were able to be gained and none of the officials noticed.

Yes, it was a great free kick and bad defending. But Jose is right that the distance does affect things.

I just finding annoying asf when the media twist things (i.e. "Jose blames the result on free kick position") when it's simply not true, because then everyone else just goes along with that.

There's plenty that can be criticised, but let's not pretend Jose tried to excuse the football because of the free kick positioning, because he didn't.

Wahhh wahh Jose.

Your team and tactics were fucking shit. If Ricarlison was a proper footballer it would have been 4 of 5 nil

 

[Spaniel]

That reeked of the fag end of a managers reign. We'll probably have to wait for a few weeks but all the classic signs were there.

Who's going to start "Next Manager " thread?

 

[prinmemo]

In fairness, James at his best is better than Kaka was at his best.

I was wrong. Comparable. Kaka produced 35 goals (goals + assists) in his best season at AC Milan in 3,500 minutes. James produced 35 goals (goals + assists) in his best season at Real Madrid in 3,500 minutes.

 

[Airfixx]

Sure. He’s not a DM. Agree, he shouldn’t be there. But he’s not really an 8 either. The only time I can remember him doing some aggressive was that last minute goal against Fulham, however many moons ago.

We’ve listened to years about him being the English Xavi, and it’s complete bullshit. He’s another Tom Caroll. Perfectly competent, tidy midfielder, but utterly predictable.

Park the "English Xavi" comment and put it in your rear mirror. We haven't heard it for years... Poch said it once affectionately as encouragement to an upcoming player. It's only comments like yours that keep it alive as a meme.

Rightfully or wrongly (and FWIW I think wrongly) he's been modeled by (2 managers now!) upon players that are not "aggressive"..... He struggles for the same reason Jourginio did. He's not Pirlo, nor is he Wanyama.

You says he's not an 8..... Cast your mind back to the player that debuted (energetic and vertical passing).... A #8 is exactly what he should have been all along!

Winks is an easy puzzle to solve in this squad; he should be back-up for GLC... It's players like PEH & Sissoko that are creating a curveball for Poch & Jose.