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I agree, and I think our CBs and how we setup the midfield were the main problem today. I think these are solvable issues, though.
Don't start Dier, don't have Winks as the deepest midfielder. Those two things alone probably fix alot of the issues from the first half today.
The thing is that Winks is a terrible defender. It would be better if Hojbjerg just sat deep and Winks had the freer role up the pitch.The problem was the inability to trust Winks or PEH with the ball in tight spaces. We just kept hoofing it up the pitch.
A thing I have noticed is that we no longer play an inverted FB like the way we played with Aurier. Doherty is in line with the other 3 defenders. With Aurier up the pitch, we are taking one of their midfielders out of the middle of the pitch, giving our CM2 a bit more room to operate. Now, we don't do that and thus the team is highly reliant on the CMs to control the game and they just couldn't. Tanguy was playing much further ahead and should have been dropping back to get the ball more, but I suspect Jose told him to stay high as he doesn't like his work rate in defense.
Oh. He didn't win anything?
The thing is that Winks is a terrible defender. It would be better if Hojbjerg just sat deep and Winks had the freer role up the pitch.
And the CBs are hoofing it because that's the direction, which is ironic because 4/5 goals today came from the midfield setting up the play, with the one exception being that great ball from Sanchez to Kane which was in the space and not a ball over the top.
Your world is shit.In my world a manager can win a cup AND be shit.
I'm not the mourinho fan but constantly pointing to his time at United is a little unfair. United have huge problems. Woodward being a big one. When fergie was at the club he ruled that place with an iron first, no player was bigger than that club. Many stories of him showing up at players houses to make sure they weren't being party boys. If you disrupted the team you'd be lucky to survive. Then when Jose takes the job you've got pogba playing shite but acting like Jesus. Martial having a sulky head while being inconsistent. Shaw was out of shape and in my opinion is still way off fulfilling his potential. Jose must have been looking at all this and wondering what's happened to man utd. But with Woodward calling the shots Jose was calling on deaf ears.He spent an absolute fortune on dross, played terrible football, constantly moaned about transfers and was frankly embarassing about Luke Shaw and Martial which came across as snidey bullying, their fans were more tban happy to see him go. He won 2 trophies,(not the ones United are used too) got them top 4 and left them a rabble in 7th or 8th in an atmosphere of toxicity. Not really much different from Van Gaal. A manager as limited as Solskjaer got them 3rd. Shit? Maybe not but for United it was bang average and just unenjoyable.
You should stop listening to the media and to united fans. the fanbase have this huge favoritism towards some of the players and they crucified mourinho because he dares to drop those player as if they understand football better than someone with 25 major trophies throughout his career. Now tell me what did they have won since he left ? What did they have won since Martial, Pogba and Rashford start playing regularly with freedom and smile on their face ? Nothing , so how can anyone said Mourinho was wrong to drop them ? Rashford didn't turn up when it matters, Pogba didn't turn up when it matters, Martial didn't turn up when it matters, they bottled all the 3 semifinal they got in last season. The media may paint Mourinho as some kind of finished dinosaur coach but trust me, the only one finished is Manchester United Football club , with their incompetent management and board who decide who to play based on popularity votes not Mourinho. Mourinho prefer players who gave 6-7 / 10 each game than players who drop 8-9 and then 2-4 the next game, it's about being consistent which is why he loved Matic and Fellaini back then which is also why Harry Winks played regularly too, because consistency is what a squad needed to win the league, those players who only good for 1-2 games does look nice on youtube compilation though. About game management yesterday against southampton, notice how Mourinho not only manage the style and pattern to play , he also manage his player stamina, he realized soton would have run out of their gas in second half after running around the pitch for the first 45 minutes and told kane to drop deeper to feed son through ball and rip them apart in second half. He is tactical genius who only focused at winning the game , and as long as the players buy into his idea , He will definitely delivers.Anyone still think Mourinho should be our manager after this shitshow of a first half? All we've got is shit balls in space to players in offside. 0 shots, 0 touches in opponents box. Fucking horrible football.
That some people can actually support this fucking clueless dinosaur baffles me.
Well now they have a manager who spread positivity in their dressing room , play "united way" , getting of rid deadwood , playing shaw and martial every week and etc yet somehow they finished with 66 points twice ( mourinho had them on 69 and 81 plus 2 trophies ) while also being trophyless , but yeah never let facts disturb the agenda that mourinho is finished dinosaur.He spent an absolute fortune on dross, played terrible football, constantly moaned about transfers and was frankly embarassing about Luke Shaw and Martial which came across as snidey bullying, their fans were more tban happy to see him go. He won 2 trophies,(not the ones United are used too) got them top 4 and left them a rabble in 7th or 8th in an atmosphere of toxicity. Not really much different from Van Gaal. A manager as limited as Solskjaer got them 3rd. Shit? Maybe not but for United it was bang average and just unenjoyable.
You should stop listening to the media and to united fans. the fanbase have this huge favoritism towards some of the players and they crucified mourinho because he dares to drop those player as if they understand football better than someone with 25 major trophies throughout his career. Now tell me what did they have won since he left ? What did they have won since Martial, Pogba and Rashford start playing regularly with freedom and smile on their face ? Nothing , so how can anyone said Mourinho was wrong to drop them ? Rashford didn't turn up when it matters, Pogba didn't turn up when it matters, Martial didn't turn up when it matters, they bottled all the 3 semifinal they got in last season. The media may paint Mourinho as some kind of finished dinosaur coach but trust me, the only one finished is Manchester United Football club , with their incompetent management and board who decide who to play based on popularity votes not Mourinho. Mourinho prefer players who gave 6-7 / 10 each game than players who drop 8-9 and then 2-4 the next game, it's about being consistent which is why he loved Matic and Fellaini back then which is also why Harry Winks played regularly too, because consistency is what a squad needed to win the league, those players who only good for 1-2 games does look nice on youtube compilation though. About game management yesterday against southampton, notice how Mourinho not only manage the style and pattern to play , he also manage his player stamina, he realized soton would have run out of their gas in second half after running around the pitch for the first 45 minutes and told kane to drop deeper to feed son through ball and rip them apart in second half. He is tactical genius who only focused at winning the game , and as long as the players buy into his idea , He will definitely delivers.
Mourinho interrupts Son interview to give Kane MOTM
Jose Mourinho interrupts Son Heung-min interview to say Harry Kane should have got man of the match in Tottenham's 5-2 win over Southampton.www.bbc.co.uk
Not sure how wise this is from Jose. I get it he's joking but if my boss came out and did that live whilst I was accepting an award I'd be none too pleased.
A world where the real world class managers win fuck allIn my world a manager can win a cup AND be shit.
It just looked so awkward after Jose came in with "his joke".totally agree. His smile completely disappeared instantly. Maybe that’ll work on him, but son strikes me as someone who needs to build on the confidence not have it undermined.
It baffles me that anyone over the age of five thinks a game is won or lost at half timeAnyone still think Mourinho should be our manager after this shitshow of a first half? All we've got is shit balls in space to players in offside. 0 shots, 0 touches in opponents box. Fucking horrible football.
That some people can actually support this fucking clueless dinosaur baffles me.
Did we win 5-2 or lose 5-2?So when does that meteor come and wipe out this Dinosaur?
Mourinho interrupts Son interview to give Kane MOTM
Jose Mourinho interrupts Son Heung-min interview to say Harry Kane should have got man of the match in Tottenham's 5-2 win over Southampton.www.bbc.co.uk
Not sure how wise this is from Jose. I get it he's joking but if my boss came out and did that live whilst I was accepting an award I'd be none too pleased.