You mean to tell me that certain people within this club get abuse when we lose but get praised when we win!!!???
:auriergrin:
-
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
Manager Jose Mourinho
- Thread starter paddy hotspur
- Start date
Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports
You mean to tell me that certain people within this club get abuse when we lose but get praised when we win!!!???
:auriergrin:
Isn't that what we got under Redknapp?
People loved those times didn't they?
I think what most people want is a team that can win games but aren't AFRAID to attack.
We don't have to be the team that plays the best football in the league - but it would be nice to see some kind of football. Mourinho HAS had us playing good football at times and we've looked great doing it. Which is why you get people asking for it more, especially when the "Win at all costs" style has seen us... well..... lose?
Fair enough.
I’m not trying to crow, I will anoint him king of the Lane should he bring success to us, and I have hope that he can with his ability to navigate the big games, which has remained consistently impressive throughout his career.
I have severe reservations about his ability to construct a ball-playing football team or to resist his rather risk-averse tactical nature, and I do worry that will impact our league form.
I’ll be here week in, week out to praise / criticise him based upon what I see like I would with any manager or player.
I'm far from being Mourinho Out, but I do wonder if he's not a good fit.
With the funds to build whatever team he wants he has built solid sides that can squeeze out results consistently enough to win trophies. With us he has to make do with Sissoko and Dier.
I believe Jose can build a squad with whatever level of budget. He just needs the trust from the board, full support/backing, time to do it and have fans behind him.
It’s not easy as it is to build a squad. ontop of that to build a squad with relatively speaking little money. he’s also trying to build the mentality around the club as well. We’re also trying to get results while building towards it.
The moment where he feels that he can’t get us there whether it’s from lack of backing to build the squad that we need, the lack of support if he needs from the board regarding player power, the lack of support from the fans, we will all see the beginning of the end.
What I worry about is him losing patience quickly if he doesn’t start winning silverware soon. This guy hates losing and won’t stay in a job that he can’t produce results.
I’m enjoying the experience of having him here. Just brings with him everything about where we are as a club. Our fanbase grew because of him. We have more attention brought on to us. Together with that comes the expectation to win silverware. So, all this talk about playing fancy football but not winning being ok... I do think it’s no longer ok because we’re trying to get to the next level at this stage of our club’s journey.
Last edited:
But we don’t want to win the ball back as desperately as City do, certainly not if it means getting out of shape. We’re happy not to have the ball. Urging us to desperately win the ball back misses the point.
Honestly 5th and Carabao would be a decent season. I know the club would prefer top four to a trophy, and usually I would too, but we badly need to get rid of this trophy drought.
No top four and no trophy would be enough for the sack, especially after a decent start to the season and posturing like title contenders.
No top four and no trophy would be enough for the sack, especially after a decent start to the season and posturing like title contenders.
Is that the people who are anti Jose or the ones who are anti the ones who are anti Jose?
I just want to see us upgrade Sissoko. I feel he is the key piece limiting Jose ball from being more effective. Someone who can help break the lines a bit and put shots on target. I fully understand why he starts currently- he is the second best holding-ish CM we have- but he offers nothing in attack and can't operate as the lone CDM. We really owe it to Jose, Kane and Son to put some money towards an upgrade THIS winter xfer window.
That and a CB, RW and sub striker. Maybe even a RB.
I'd love Europa. Would get us a trophy and get us CL qualification.
Not sure how popular this will be with others in the forum, but I'd prioritise Europa over PL in latter stages of season.
I'd love the Europa too.
I think if we can find some form we could have a real chance of winning the Europa and the EFL Cup which would be a good season for me.
The key is getting some spark out of some of the squad. We can't continue to rely solely on Son and Kane, we need more from the rest of the attackers.
Not to Daniel levy
Very true. I think we will have to sacrifice the PL top 4 unfortunately.
I’m all for Jose and he can play any way he chooses, but if it’s going to be this negative football then he has to win.
The West Ham game was disgraceful and Jose should have been the one to manage a draw at Liverpool, a win in the Palace game and at least a draw at home to Leicester.
The West Ham game was disgraceful and Jose should have been the one to manage a draw at Liverpool, a win in the Palace game and at least a draw at home to Leicester.
Spot on. He's decent as somebody to throw in in the big games to keep us solid but we're desperate for somebody in midfield that can take the game by the scruff of the neck and get us playing. A Modric type - is that too much to ask?
We let them have all of the ball that they wanted against us...we still beat them...next...
Sounds like we're still looking for a centre back in January. On the face of it another defensive move, but as others have said, it could be the opposite.
Mourinho only went super defensive post West Ham because he saw that our CBs aren't good enough. He felt he had to set up the whole team to protect them, even if it cost us a few goals going forward. With better centre backs, he can be a bit more adventurous.
I like this idea, and reminds us that there is a plan (Mou was after a CB in summer). Hojbjerg is a good example of how strengthening defense (in midfield), allows our attacking players more freedom. Hopefully a top quality centre half can have a similar effect.
Mourinho only went super defensive post West Ham because he saw that our CBs aren't good enough. He felt he had to set up the whole team to protect them, even if it cost us a few goals going forward. With better centre backs, he can be a bit more adventurous.
I like this idea, and reminds us that there is a plan (Mou was after a CB in summer). Hojbjerg is a good example of how strengthening defense (in midfield), allows our attacking players more freedom. Hopefully a top quality centre half can have a similar effect.
A game for his trusted few, Winks assist, Davies goal, Sissoko assist.