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Manager Jose Mourinho

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1.65 in the league *
 
  1. The game is won by the team who has the smallest testicles.
  2. Football favours whoever bullies, deflects and scapegoats.
  3. Away from home, instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, it’s better to shamelessly park the bus like we do at home.
  4. Whoever has the ball is more likely to have a shot on target.
  5. Whoever renounces possession wins a miserable fanbase.
  6. Whoever has the ball has fear- especially if you can't coaching attacking patterns.
  7. Whoever does not have it is thereby a pussy but this can be overcome with a blank chequebook.
 
This thread is one of the busiest and clearly most want Jose out. However sacking him will achieve nothing, as it is appointing someone better that is the key. Last season Poch had lost it and had to go. However I did not want some caretaker that would be no better or just appointing the best available at this time. Levy had a replacement lined up last season but has he this?
Mourinho has been a roller coaster, starting off good and then a massive slump but retrieving it in the summer. This season it started well and has clearly gone wrong recently. He has clearly made mistakes but seems to be back tracking on ultra defensive. The lack of fans in the stadium has at least 2 effects being that it does not favour the larger clubs with more support and you only have to look at Liverpool to see how without that formidable support at Anfield they are not so good. Also without fans it allows less criticism of Managers, players and ultimately Levy to do anything.
It will cost £30m+ to sack Mourinho which at a time of no crowds is considerable and will impact on the summer transfer targets. Reports are that Mourinho is safe at present and I believe Levy will wait until the end of the season and decide then. Not only will he have a better idea of how many supporters will be allowed in next season but will have more available Managers available to replace him.
In the meantime lets hope for an improvement. WBA was ok and Everton although disappointing was not bad. We will not play teams as talented as Liverpool, MC or Chelsea again this season in the league.
 
This thread is one of the busiest and clearly most want Jose out. However sacking him will achieve nothing, as it is appointing someone better that is the key. Last season Poch had lost it and had to go. However I did not want some caretaker that would be no better or just appointing the best available at this time. Levy had a replacement lined up last season but has he this?
Mourinho has been a roller coaster, starting off good and then a massive slump but retrieving it in the summer. This season it started well and has clearly gone wrong recently. He has clearly made mistakes but seems to be back tracking on ultra defensive. The lack of fans in the stadium has at least 2 effects being that it does not favour the larger clubs with more support and you only have to look at Liverpool to see how without that formidable support at Anfield they are not so good. Also without fans it allows less criticism of Managers, players and ultimately Levy to do anything.
It will cost £30m+ to sack Mourinho which at a time of no crowds is considerable and will impact on the summer transfer targets. Reports are that Mourinho is safe at present and I believe Levy will wait until the end of the season and decide then. Not only will he have a better idea of how many supporters will be allowed in next season but will have more available Managers available to replace him.
In the meantime lets hope for an improvement. WBA was ok and Everton although disappointing was not bad. We will not play teams as talented as Liverpool, MC or Chelsea again this season in the league.

Plenty of football to be played. League still mathematically possible. But so is relegation. And both while extremely unlikely are almost impossible in reality.

He’s going nowhere for now. Just need to see where this season ends up.
 
Plain fact is we have 5 points more in the EPL than last season.
Plain fact is last season at this point we were 16-10-13 and F 69 A 56
This season we are 23-7-9 82-42.
So even with our current drop in results we have won more games, lost fewer games, scored more goals and conceded less goals than last season, have reached a final, potentially reaching another and if we win our game in hand are are 3 points away from 4th.
If offered that at the beginning of the season most fans would have bitten your hand off.
Urggh!
 
We are a massive draw for any Manager in the game. We aren't an elite club but we have elite facilities, we, therefore, provide the manager with the same if not better than he would get at an elite Club.

The added attraction, especially for a young aspiring coach (so a Poch, Naglesmann, Rose etc. etc....) is the pressure of expectation is nothing like that experienced at an elite Club. (I think that is a possible reason why so many of the elite have recently opted to go for a playing legend (Zidane, OGS, Pirlo, Flick, Pep at Barca, as PSG is a new Club maybe that's helped Poch their too) too, as it gives them time if they struggle initially.

Our expectations have never been to win the PL or CL, unlike the elite Clubs who do have this as their annual expectation. Yet off the pitch, everything is already set up as an elite club, all the marginal gains afforded to elite clubs we have and some. On the pitch we have one of the best strikers in the World with at least 3 other Worldclass players, in addition to a squad that have competed at the highest level in both domestic and European competition (some might be at the end of their cycle, best make this judgement when we have a manager that knows what he's doing before we throw out the bathwater and the baby) and we have a very strong academy with some top prospects being spoken.

There are few football Cubs more attractive to join than us and for a coach like Nagglesmann, who's turned down Real Madrid because he saw the jump too big and he wasn't ready we are fucking perfect.

Poch didn't have all these pieces in place when he was our manager. He came to Tottenham when Crystal Palace was closer in revenue terms to us, then we were to Woolwich!!! We have now overtaken then financially and caught up completly with Chavs. He didn't have a home stadium for 2yrs! When he did get into the new stadium, we still needed to acclimatise as it was for all intense and purpose not home.

Everything is there and in place, all the staff that were pulled off running the Club to focus on building the stadium are also now doing their jobs focussing on football.

I knew he'd be shit but genuinely given what he's inherited he's been far, far, far worse than even I can get my head around.

For the right manager though, they can enjoy everything that an elite club can offer (including salary) without the pressure of expectation.
Quite the sales pitch!
I want to agree with you, and you make some great points but if I'm Nagelsman then yes, I turned down Real at the time,but that was then, 3 years ago nearly. With 3 more years of experience under my belt and having enhanced my credentials significantly in that time, now is the time to manage a truly elite team.
Keep telling yourself that we are one of those elite teams but fantastic facilities don't make us an elite team by any stretch. We have the set-up, I fully agree, and we have the foundation to become that in future,but we need to identify the next Nagelsmann in my view. I would love to be proven wrong but if I'm Nagelsmann I look at Spurs and think that could have suited me a few years ago but now I want to win titles.
 
Quite the sales pitch!
I want to agree with you, and you make some great points but if I'm Nagelsman then yes, I turned down Real at the time,but that was then, 3 years ago nearly. With 3 more years of experience under my belt and having enhanced my credentials significantly in that time, now is the time to manage a truly elite team.
Keep telling yourself that we are one of those elite teams but fantastic facilities don't make us an elite team by any stretch. We have the set-up, I fully agree, and we have the foundation to become that in future,but we need to identify the next Nagelsmann in my view. I would love to be proven wrong but if I'm Nagelsmann I look at Spurs and think that could have suited me a few years ago but now I want to win titles.

Where?

I agree that it might be unlikely that we get Nagelsmann but everybody keeps saying he wants to go to a bigger club while ignoring there are none available to go to.

I think now is our best chance to convince him that he can come here and have a shot to win things. There would be little pressure like at other clubs, the chance to build the squad how he likes, the potential to keep some elite players or move them to fund moves he likes.

Its not a perfect pitch to him but when there are no better options it might be the time to strike. I think the problem is he won't see us as a better job than RB so he just stays there,
 
Plain fact is we have 5 points more in the EPL than last season.
Plain fact is last season at this point we were 16-10-13 and F 69 A 56
This season we are 23-7-9 82-42.
So even with our current drop in results we have won more games, lost fewer games, scored more goals and conceded less goals than last season, have reached a final, potentially reaching another and if we win our game in hand are are 3 points away from 4th.
If offered that at the beginning of the season most fans would have bitten your hand off.

You are comparing 27 League Games, 7 Champions League Games 2 Cup Games against PL opposition and 3 against Lower League opposition last season, to 23 League Games, 9 Europa League Games, 2 Cup against PL opposition and 5 against lower league opposition this season.

In effect 36 top level games last season versus 25 this at "same time", and somehow you want to say because be beat Marine and a bunch of Macedonians, Bulgarians, Israelis this year we should be applauding that as some sort of massive achievement.

Plain fact is we are on schedule for our lowest points accumulation since Ramos season, lowest League place, following on from a very low points season last year, which immediately was preceded by being a Champions League Finalist and finishing 4th despite having added numerous players to the squad since then.

Give me strength.
Looks for the banging head against brick wall emoji.

And to answer your question if you offered us this at the start of the season, most fans would not be biting your hand off for it, as shown by the 85 to 90% or so in whatever poll you can look at, that thinks Mourinho should go.
 
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Plain fact is we have 5 points more in the EPL than last season.
Plain fact is last season at this point we were 16-10-13 and F 69 A 56
This season we are 23-7-9 82-42.
So even with our current drop in results we have won more games, lost fewer games, scored more goals and conceded less goals than last season, have reached a final, potentially reaching another and if we win our game in hand are are 3 points away from 4th.
If offered that at the beginning of the season most fans would have bitten your hand off.

You are living in Clown World. We are playing the worst football in the PL and the results are getting consistently poorer. Jose is turning our team into a laughing stock in front of our eyes. At what point is reality going to hit home and that you Jose disciples finally accept he is not the right man for our club? Just get rid of him now before he does any more damage and get a caretaker in. Pay him his £30 million or however much it is and be done with it. Each place we are slipping down the league is another £2 million in prize money anyway so get someone in now and if we have a bounce like Tuchel has had we may be able to get a bit of that money back.
 
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