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Manager Nuno Espírito Santo

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There's no difference between Pochettino, Fonseca, Gattuso, Espirito Santo IMHO: with them our fate would have been 0 trophies
The only one that could make a difference was Antonio Conte. When he refused, the damage was already done
 
Honest question here, if he fails and this appointment goes to shit, are the people defending Levy finally going to ask for his head? Or are they just going to blame the DOF forgetting who hired the DOF in the first place?

Because from what I am reading it seems that the message now is that we should all just be happy with the appointment and accept the outcome unless it all goes to shit?

So should people not protest now that we have a manager? Should we forget all the shit Levy has done over the last few months and the lies he has told (and continues to tell?) It really does feel like since we have signed Nuno a portion of people feel very emboldened all of a sudden and outspoken.

Don't get me wrong, I want Nuno to succeed because I want the club to succeed but I am not going to sit here and pretend like everything is suddenly ok, it's clearly not and will not be until the conman has left the football club.

History repeats itself with Levy.
 
zuf said:
Yes. Nuno's the best manager we've had in 40 years. I guess everyone's view is based on his last season, which is how it goes in football.

It wasn't great but there were a lot of mitigating factors. The work he did before then was fantastic and we were in a European QF only 10 months ago.

The football is not really similar to Mourinho's at all either. It is risk-averse sometimes (how much that was to do with us being newly promoted I'm not sure) but there's definitely a focus on building from the back, possession and switching play to the flanks. As well as "laying traps" without the ball then countering quickly.

It all fizzled out last season but I think he could do great things with your squad.
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The mitigating factors were exacerbated by Nuno's poor decisions.

Jimenez injury:
2018/19:
Decided against signing Bonatini permanently and look for alternative backup for Raul.
Did not materialise, we caved and signed Bonatini, who played 1(?) Premier league game before being shipped out on loan.
We did not sign anybody to provide striker cover.
2019/20:
Signed Patrick Cutrone to compete with Jota and Raul for 1 of the two striker positions. Sent an unhappy Cutrone out on loan half way through the season.
We had no cover for Raul or Jota should either of them break.
2020/21:
Approved the sale of Jota, signed Silva to go into U23s. Did not sign a back up for Raul, our only striker.

Bare in mind at this point, Raul had played around 100 consecutive games seasons and was going into this season with a 2 week rest break and no pre season. To not sign a backup striker, even just for competition, is borderline negligence. In what world can you expect him not to pick up any injury at all?

Europa League Fatigue:
Was a tough, long season, made worse by only having a squad size of 17 rather than 25 as per the league standard.
But we weren't in Europa last season, better man management would have lessened the fatigue.
Example:
Moutinho and Neves really needed a rest, but he would not swap in Dendoncker or Otasowie into midfield, utilising Kilman and Hoever better in central defence would have freed up Dendoncker into the midfield role and give Neves or Moutinho a break.

Injury crisis:
Played Podence through groin strain for 3 months that eventually required surgery.
Played Neto through a knee injury in a dead rubber that resulted in him requiring knee surgery.
Played Boly while he was having heart palpitations and long covid, rather than rotate and use Kilman/Hoever.

Centre backs:
For a large part of the season he preferred to use the DMs at the club in the CB position, because like Raul, he failed to sign actual CBs as backup, when we sold Ryan Bennett it left Boly as the only experienced CB at the club.
Rather than use younger players at CB (Kilman, Hoever) he preferred to use the DMs, taking this resource away from a much stretched midfield.

Trust in youth:
Vitinha, Otasowie, MGW were all available to offer fresh legs in midfield. He preferred to use Vitinha (a number 8) at LW, he preferred to use MGW (a number 10) at RW, and he preferred to use Otasowie (B2B DM) in the very rare games he played as a false 9.
Even in dead rubber games, he did not play the youth in their preferred or natural positions.

Yes, there are mitigating circumstances, but every team had an injury crisis at points, every team had practically zero prep for this season, we weren't special snowflakes last season, Nuno got it wrong and we paid the price.
 
Not sure if I'm in the bargaining or acceptance phase at the moment, but I am now cautiously optimistic with what we'll get with Nuno. I'm hoping for Championship promotion and first year PL Wolves version of Nuno, not what we've seen the last year.

There was a time when I thought that Wolves looked really solid and exciting, and coaches can obviously get burned out a little and get brought down by other dynamics in the club. He'll have new faces to work with and has an opportunity to turn around the dross that we've seen for the past 2 years.

I still think Levy is a lying bastard and I can't stand him, but I'm going to fully separate that from Nuno and give him a fair shot and showing us what he can do.
 
forever a Wolf said:
To all you Spurs fans, relax, trust this man and his back room staff because they will put their heart and soul into turning your club into a team that will play as one, fight for every ball and never play with fear.
Yes I'm a Wolves fan but let me tell you something, you will all be singing his name and thanking your lucky stars in 3 months time. He will lead with honesty and hard work and an inclusiveness that creates a togetherness that makes football so magic.
You and your players will love him if you can leave your big time Charlie attitudes at home .He will improve your own players and bring players in that will improve your team, with or without Kane. I would have him back in a heartbeat, but he is Spurs now and I wish him and all you Spurs fans all the very best until you play us.
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Thanks for the input Dan.
 
cretinousgoat said:
Bin vote cast 👍🏾
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He's full of shit mate, we should be able to want Nuno to do well but also want Levy out of the football club for the way he has behaved.

Since we have signed Nuno however some posters like him are using it as an opportunity to try attack others for having genuine issues with the chairman.

Being called "moaners" and expecting only their positive rose-tinted outlook to be heard.

Said many times, obviously we should back Nuno, I want him to do well but fuck Levy.
 
Skooch said:
Says the man who thinks there was no agreement in place with Mourinho before Poch was sacked.
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......That claim is not as accurate or relevant as you'd like to think.

(BTW, which user were you in a former life?)

Meanwhile, both Nagg & Flick's new jobs were announced within 2 weeks of Jose being sacked.
 
Incomplete_usernam said:
You add nothing to this forum, all you do is attack anybody who dares have an issue with the chairman and owners.
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I think you will find that anyone who has the temerity to SUPPORT the owners, chairmen or even certain players is attacked by the same sad group of posters every time.

You may not support or appreciate ENIC - that's entirely your right - I don't agree with you but that's not attacking you, it's just having a different opinion ... that used to be called freedom of speech now you call it an attack .... sad
 
KBubu said:
The mitigating factors were exacerbated by Nuno's poor decisions.

Jimenez injury:
2018/19:
Decided against signing Bonatini permanently and look for alternative backup for Raul.
Did not materialise, we caved and signed Bonatini, who played 1(?) Premier league game before being shipped out on loan.
We did not sign anybody to provide striker cover.
2019/20:
Signed Patrick Cutrone to compete with Jota and Raul for 1 of the two striker positions. Sent an unhappy Cutrone out on loan half way through the season.
We had no cover for Raul or Jota should either of them break.
2020/21:
Approved the sale of Jota, signed Silva to go into U23s. Did not sign a back up for Raul, our only striker.

Bare in mind at this point, Raul had played around 100 consecutive games seasons and was going into this season with a 2 week rest break and no pre season. To not sign a backup striker, even just for competition, is borderline negligence. In what world can you expect him not to pick up any injury at all?

Europa League Fatigue:
Was a tough, long season, made worse by only having a squad size of 17 rather than 25 as per the league standard.
But we weren't in Europa last season, better man management would have lessened the fatigue.
Example:
Moutinho and Neves really needed a rest, but he would not swap in Dendoncker or Otasowie into midfield, utilising Kilman and Hoever better in central defence would have freed up Dendoncker into the midfield role and give Neves or Moutinho a break.

Injury crisis:
Played Podence through groin strain for 3 months that eventually required surgery.
Played Neto through a knee injury in a dead rubber that resulted in him requiring knee surgery.
Played Boly while he was having heart palpitations and long covid, rather than rotate and use Kilman/Hoever.

Centre backs:
For a large part of the season he preferred to use the DMs at the club in the CB position, because like Raul, he failed to sign actual CBs as backup, when we sold Ryan Bennett it left Boly as the only experienced CB at the club.
Rather than use younger players at CB (Kilman, Hoever) he preferred to use the DMs, taking this resource away from a much stretched midfield.

Trust in youth:
Vitinha, Otasowie, MGW were all available to offer fresh legs in midfield. He preferred to use Vitinha (a number 8) at LW, he preferred to use MGW (a number 10) at RW, and he preferred to use Otasowie (B2B DM) in the very rare games he played as a false 9.
Even in dead rubber games, he did not play the youth in their preferred or natural positions.

Yes, there are mitigating circumstances, but every team had an injury crisis at points, every team had practically zero prep for this season, we weren't special snowflakes last season, Nuno got it wrong and we paid the price.
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Regarding youth, Wolves had the highest percentage of U-21s playing in the league this season. Was that down to a single player or am I missing something?
 
KBubu said:
The mitigating factors were exacerbated by Nuno's poor decisions.

Jimenez injury:
2018/19:
Decided against signing Bonatini permanently and look for alternative backup for Raul.
Did not materialise, we caved and signed Bonatini, who played 1(?) Premier league game before being shipped out on loan.
We did not sign anybody to provide striker cover.
2019/20:
Signed Patrick Cutrone to compete with Jota and Raul for 1 of the two striker positions. Sent an unhappy Cutrone out on loan half way through the season.
We had no cover for Raul or Jota should either of them break.
2020/21:
Approved the sale of Jota, signed Silva to go into U23s. Did not sign a back up for Raul, our only striker.

Bare in mind at this point, Raul had played around 100 consecutive games seasons and was going into this season with a 2 week rest break and no pre season. To not sign a backup striker, even just for competition, is borderline negligence. In what world can you expect him not to pick up any injury at all?

Europa League Fatigue:
Was a tough, long season, made worse by only having a squad size of 17 rather than 25 as per the league standard.
But we weren't in Europa last season, better man management would have lessened the fatigue.
Example:
Moutinho and Neves really needed a rest, but he would not swap in Dendoncker or Otasowie into midfield, utilising Kilman and Hoever better in central defence would have freed up Dendoncker into the midfield role and give Neves or Moutinho a break.

Injury crisis:
Played Podence through groin strain for 3 months that eventually required surgery.
Played Neto through a knee injury in a dead rubber that resulted in him requiring knee surgery.
Played Boly while he was having heart palpitations and long covid, rather than rotate and use Kilman/Hoever.

Centre backs:
For a large part of the season he preferred to use the DMs at the club in the CB position, because like Raul, he failed to sign actual CBs as backup, when we sold Ryan Bennett it left Boly as the only experienced CB at the club.
Rather than use younger players at CB (Kilman, Hoever) he preferred to use the DMs, taking this resource away from a much stretched midfield.

Trust in youth:
Vitinha, Otasowie, MGW were all available to offer fresh legs in midfield. He preferred to use Vitinha (a number 8) at LW, he preferred to use MGW (a number 10) at RW, and he preferred to use Otasowie (B2B DM) in the very rare games he played as a false 9.
Even in dead rubber games, he did not play the youth in their preferred or natural positions.

Yes, there are mitigating circumstances, but every team had an injury crisis at points, every team had practically zero prep for this season, we weren't special snowflakes last season, Nuno got it wrong and we paid the price.
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Sounds like us really, Spurs have made most of these mistakes over the last few years. Have we EVER managed to get a real backup for Kane?
We know that most of our stuff hasn't happened because of Levy. What's to say the board didn't back Nuno at Wolves in the same way?
 
The Outsider said:
I think you will find that anyone who has the temerity to SUPPORT the owners, chairmen or even certain players is attacked by the same sad group of posters every time.

You may not support or appreciate ENIC - that's entirely your right - I don't agree with you but that's not attacking you, it's just having a different opinion ... that used to be called freedom of speech now you call it an attack .... sad
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I think the players and manager should be supported always but I don't think there is any issue with people calling out others for defending the chairman or owners at this point considering all the lies and actions they have taken over the last few months and during their tenure on the football side.

People defending Levy on the football side of things are bad actors at this point, no doubt about it, they ignore facts and they are working actively against the club and supporters best interests, I have no sympathy for them, Levy is a liar and should be outed as such, not defended.

The bolded part, if you replied like that with all your posts then it would be reasonable, that is not how you reply 9 times out of 10, most of the time you just refuse to answer basic questions, dodge discussion and make statements like the one I quoted.

I do appreciate ENIC for their infrastructure work, I never said otherwise, I don't trust Daniel Levy whatsoever, he lies time after time and repeats the cycle over and over again because it works for ENIC and people keep buying into it.
 
Tomo said:
It might be a quid pro quo. We take a Mendes manager suitable or not and in return Paratici and Mendes sort out the buys and sells to fix the staleness of the squad. On the flip side we might actually get the deadwood out the door this window.

We took Gedson Fernandes which made no sense, it just feels like Levy doing favours for Mendes in the hope we will get some decent players for affordable prices in return. Otherwise I am a bit stumped at everything that has taken place.
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I'm quite sure there is more than a grain of truth in what you say. This all stinks of dodgy business dealings to me
 
zin said:
Regarding youth, Wolves had the highest percentage of U-21s playing in the league this season. Was that down to a single player or am I missing something?
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Marcal injury meant 19yo RAN played most of the season. Neto is still U21 and 18yo Fabio Silva played most of the season because of Raul missing.

Towards end of the season as players were picking up more injuries he did use the youth but mostly shoehorned in out of position.

Neto and Podence broke down around the same time, so he was forced to bring in Vitinha and MGW And were played out of position and that helped bring the average down.
 
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