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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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What I will find interesting is if he shows up tomorrow.

They are seeing some of the reactions from pundits and supporters, and still have the ability to show up tomorrow and both he and the club could make it out to be a covid test issue to try to save face.
Apparently from Matt Law he’s going to play hard ball now until he secures a move
 
I think the next day or two will be key in this saga.
Reports seem to suggest that he wasn’t due for training today anyway, he was due in for tests including possibly a COVID test. He hasn’t missed training yet as he’s not due to start until tomorrow.
It’s also been suggested that him not being on site today is by his own choice, but the reporting is ambiguous in that nobody has confirmed whether this is with or without the clubs permission.
If he doesn’t turn up tomorrow there is perhaps more afoot, but at the moment its probably just a load of hot air over nothing.
Mate, give it up...

He didn't turn up for scheduled tests that were a precursor to starting training, he would have been due for training today if they weren't necessary. So what makes you think he will turn up tomorrow? And even if he does then he will have to have the missed tests and then wouldn't be training until Wednesday, so on the off chance that this is the case then he still needs a bloody good excuse as to why he wasn't there today.

I understand that you want this all to be an innocent mix up, and why, but the writing's on the wall.
 
Modric wanted to leave, as does Kane, but the club refused to sell and he stayed for a year and played well. Kane wants goal scoring records and to play well at the next World Cup, so for totally selfish reasons he has motivation to play well for us if he stayed. We can get £100m a year from now with the added bonus of 20 league goals and a bunch of assists from Harry next season. We do not need to sell for anything other than a stupid amount of money and frankly, we don't want to set that precedent (that we'll sell our best player for a 'reasonable' fee). All clubs should know that if you come for our best player when they have years to run on their contract, you'll have to pay a transfer fee that will make your arse bleed.

Modric knew he was only staying for one final season for a start. Kane has just had his "Let's see what happens" season, and we were dog shit, even with someone in charge that has won as much as anyone in the game. You can't polish a turd.

I'm sure if Kane stays and plays he'll score goals. He's too good a player not to more than anything else. But some fans will turn on him the moment he's not producing what with what has gone on. Keeping an unhappy player that desperately wants out is rarely anything other than a clusterfuck.
 
Only time will tell but I think Harry and his camp have made a massive miscalculation. Once the £160 million price tag was leaked, there’s no way for Levy to accept less. I think Harry wants City more than City want him and he’s going to have ruined his legacy here for nothing.
 
I do not think that owners who inject money and use said money to build the club is cancer to football. That is absolutely correct.

Owners that lend money to clubs and bring the clubs into great debt, and use the lent money to buy players and overpay wages are a much bigger problem.

If anything is "cancer" (a term I wouldnt use for such a discussion), it is owners who are only in it to exploit the game and extract money, such as the Glazers, and other owners that push for changes to enrich the big clubs at the expense of the smaller ones.

The owners of United, Woolwich, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, are the evil cunts (football club upper management wize, I am still not discussing the background of the owners), way more than those who own Chelsea, PSG and Chelsea.

My view is that you who think the opposite, who prefers the money-draining owners over the money-investing owners, have swallowed a narrative that the conspiracy theorist in me will say has been put out there by people trying to protect the position of the "big clubs" from the big leagues (meaning those that happened to be the biggest when PL and CL were introduced, who then got a lot more money and exposure than other clubs) (i do not believe it is a conspiracy, rather that people try to defend that which they support and will make up any excuse to do so even if it is unreasonable)
How can you not see where the money comes from. PSG, Chelsea and man city are a cancer that needs cutting out. Soon they will be the only franchises (not FC,s) winning things. The other owners aren't great either but, city being owned by a state basically changes everything. Theres now no competition and it will drive fans away. How can you be happy with a regime owning a football club using it to hide human rights violations back home.
You never answered my other question are you sure your spurs?
and if you are how can you say these clubs are good for football?
 
Only time will tell but I think Harry and his camp have made a massive miscalculation. Once the £160 million price tag was leaked, there’s no way for Levy to accept less. I think Harry wants City more than City want him and he’s going to have ruined his legacy here for nothing.

What legacy though, really? If he stayed he might beat Greaves' record. Probably not, but there's a chance at least. So he'll have the adoration of most Spurs supporters. Big deal. It's nice, but it's now what footballers play football for. The best ones play to win things. Not just to win over a crowd. He isn't fucking Maximus.

Besides, there's clearly a small section of wankers who call themselves Tottenham fans that don't even rate him as highly as fans from other clubs do. Especially on here.
 
No it doesn't actually. At some point it would go to the CAS and would be ruled on. Or he could just half-ass it and we'd be fucked. It's the reason people get sold when they want to and why Levy said what he said (postd earlier) about the player having all the power. It does us no good to have Harry walking around on the pitch avoid injury and stinking the joint up. It's foolish to suggest "we hold all the cards" like folks are making out round here. We should have sold on our terms seasons ago and rebuilt.
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I do not think that owners who inject money and use said money to build the club is cancer to football. That is absolutely correct.

You're ignoring the detail in terms of where the money is coming from and at times the illegal means by which it is spent.

Owners that lend money to clubs and bring the clubs into great debt, and use the lent money to buy players and overpay wages are a much bigger problem.

So as long as City's lot don't bankrup the club they're sweet.....? : pffffff :

If anything is "cancer" (a term I wouldnt use for such a discussion), it is owners who are only in it to exploit the game and extract money, such as the Glazers, and other owners that push for changes to enrich the big clubs at the expense of the smaller ones.

Then why didn't City & Chavski reject the offer to join the ESL?

(The only reason PSG - A team that purely exists to win the CL! - sat on the fence is because of their enganglement with the 2022 World Cup).

The owners of United, Woolwich, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, are the evil cunts (football club upper management wize, I am still not discussing the background of the owners), way more than those who own Chelsea, PSG and Chelsea.

(See above....)

My view is that you who think the opposite, who prefers the money-draining owners over the money-investing owners, have swallowed a narrative that the conspiracy theorist in me will say has been put out there by people trying to protect the position of the "big clubs" from the big leagues (meaning those that happened to be the biggest when PL and CL were introduced, who then got a lot more money and exposure than other clubs) (i do not believe it is a conspiracy, rather that people try to defend that which they support and will make up any excuse to do so even if it is unreasonable)

Nah, the view is you don't understand the fabric & heritage of the the game and the legitimacy (or otherwise) of sporting competition.... Yours is a largely corporate view.

To then proceed to patronise people's moral ojections that extend beyond their own teams successes (or otherwise); preferring to cite it as jealousy instead.... Well bollocks to that, frankly.
 
I don't think the club mind the rumours at all. I'm going to shout this for the melts:

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS BAD PUBLICITY.

So all this speculation means people are talking about us, the best striker in the PL and whether or not he's staying. If he leaves (he won't), more money for us, if he goes then we're amazing and more fans will come to us. win-win.
Pretty sure being convicted of having sexual relations with farm animals would be construed as bad publicity.
 
Harry Kane is a great player, but this 'trophy' situation still really irritates me, he's played in one of the most successful Tottenham teams on the pitch in recent years and couldn't win anything. He's also the player that's had a chance to win 3 major trophies in the last seven years or so (Prem League, Champions League and League cup final x2). Not to mention the numerous Semi Finals we've failed in.
I could understand him blaming us for not winning the CL if he had scored a hat-trick and we had lost 4-3 through poor defending but the reality is that we lost 2-0 and he bottled it like every other player in the team.

If he wants someone to blame for not winning a trophy, he should take a look in the mirror.
 
It isn't enough to claim I did something. Show evidence. You claimed contradiction where none existed. Feel free to show what my strawman argument was. Just because I beat down your points easily doesn't mean I constructed them.


Yup, and him not showing up increases the pressure on the club...EXACTLY THE REASON HE IS DOING IT. And then when he's does show up and plays half-assed the pressure increases further. And then when the one-man team becomes the shitty one-half-assed--player team it increases further. If this wasn't so then most of your legacy fans wouldn't be throwing your toys out the pram right now. Fact!


Sure he has. Player said in May he wanted out. Season starts next week. Legacy fans who lived in denial are going nuts because player doesn't show up. Too long. Simple. So now your boy DL will have lost the best player and best manager we've had in their time because of poor management.


And was punished and forced to stay even after doing all of that. How'd that go for us Guids?


Remind me all you'd like but you'd better remind yourself first. It went on for 6 months because Liverpool pissed off Soton. The deal happened in January didn't it?


Lots of nonsense in here. We've had 5 years to 'rebuild' and you out here not wanting rebuild anyway. Dele must stay right? He's gonna come good. Now you're just negotiating your grief. Acceptance will be soon my friend.


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But you weren't saying all this until he didn't show up which leads me to question your actual comfort with him going. Me? I'm tots comfortable with it...and would be elated if he carried Dele and all the other dross he's been carrying with him for the last few years out the door too.
Kane not showing up to training doesn't put Tottenham under any pressure whatsoever. Just look at the reaction from fans and non-fans, most saying it doesn't look good on Kane. That's pressure now on Kane, pressure that he's put on himself. Our position is unchanged, it's clear - "he's not for sale" (whilst this line is jotted out for many players that are sold eventually, the point is genuine, in that it translates into pay up or shut up). Kane not turning up to training doesn't mean we will accept 60% of his value.

Yes, he's fucking with the start to our season but Nuno and the club are just going to have to navigate this as Poch did playing away from home for nearly two years.

But WE ARE NOT UNDER ANY PRESSURE TO SELL HIM BECAUSE HE HAS THREE YEARS LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT. He's fucked himself here.

The tables are turned however when a players contract gets into its last 18months or so but we are 18 months away from this!!

If you have a world-class player on your books you keep hold of him because he improves your team (my only concern with him is whether his lack of ability to press anymore makes us a bit shit in how we play). Clubs make a decision, especially players of his age, on do we sell or keep because you choose deliberately not to sell him and you let him go for free in three years time (there have been a number of examples in the last couple of years where this has happened) or you sell. If you sell then you get top $. We haven't been offered top $ so he stays.

We were only a one-man team last couple of seasons because we had a fucking dinosaur in coaching it. A dinosaur that has never bothered even once to focus on how his teams attack, who leaves it up to them to figure it out, with all the focus and attention is spent on drills without the ball and on the oppo strengths and how to negate them. Under a different manager, this should be different (I don't know enough about Nuno to be comfortable, however. I am confident that he will be better than the dinosaur).

LFC didn't play Coutinho every game, or perhaps more accurately he was often a substitute or was substituted, this is because I don't think he was a Klopp type player (not an aggressive counter presser), I think he was more than happy for him to be sold because of this, at the same time they made out "he's not for sale" so they can demand the highest possible fee!! They mugged off Barca brilliantly, if we are to sell Kane then we too should mug off whoever that club is too. If it's City we should absolutely fuck them, not roll over and have us sell a player for 60% of his value.

Yes, Kane wants out, I've not said otherwise. But we've not had a bid come in that would facilitate his sale. It's as simple as that. AGAIN, we are NOT under any pressure to sell, we don't have to sell. We will sell if we receive a bid that is big enough for us to accept. Please, please let me negotiate the purchase of your house, I've got a deal for you.

Please stop going on about Dele, he's nothing to do with this! Yes, you think he's shit and yes I disagree with you on that. So fucking what??t!!! BORING!

I don't like players fucking with my Club. Not turning up to train, going on strike, going to the press about leaving is fucking with my Club. Whilst it's part of football, which I accept, there is a difference in how Erisksen left and Kane is going about it for example. Eriksen didn't sign a new contract, Kane did. Eriksen turned up to training, Kane isn't. Eriksen didn't go to the press, Kane did. It meant he was always available for selection, there was little distraction and speculation surrounding him, which in sport for all the marginal gains that clubs search to achieve is what I mean about fucking with the Club.

The pressure is not on Spurs. That's what a 3yr contract gives you.
 
Apparently from Matt Law he’s going to play hard ball now until he secures a move

Very likely, but I'm just interested on what is going on inside of both camps at the moment. It is a financial issue, no doubt, but there is also a gigantic PR fight starting now as well.

This is a big risk on Kane's side. I still think he has far more to lose on this one. The club literally just need to hold firm and play the waiting game. A "gentlemen's agreement" isn't going to be enough.
 
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