If Potter is to be believed we never talked with him to begin with.
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Players too? Literally 100s of million then.....
but they do sell a lot of players (including young players for good money)
Just wondering if the Chelsea model cost's that much more than the way Levy has run us ?
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Firstly, I accept right off the bat Potter lacks in terms of name-value.
However; in terms of the top 4 jobs being "closed" for the foreseeable:
Chavs: Roman's axe is NEVER too far away.... And Tuchel's proven to not be shy of a bust-up either.
Man U: Two parts to this. Firstly Conte & ZZ are both potentially combustible and possibly short-term. Secondly, look at the profile of what 'Project Ole' is and more importantly what they obviously hoped it would amount too.... Given their prior interest in Poch; don't you think that Poch 2.0 (sic) aka Potter could be a tempting prospect for them?
City: I've no doubt they'll keep Pep as long as he's willing to stay, but numerous times over the last 2 years, he's made curious noises about breaks, retirement etc. Also, although likely pretty hollow at this stage; Potter is begining to be whispered about in the press with regard to being PGs eventual successor.
Dippers: Gerrard factor accepted, but who knows... Things could go south for him in the meantime. Jürgen Klopp plans sabbatical when Liverpool contract is up in 2024
......Who knows how high Potters stock will rise over the next 6-12 months?
As cliched as it is to say; things change and yes, indeed, that could include Potter's outlook too.... I shan't deny that possibility.
My position in the other thread was to - for now - simply to heed the most concrete thing that we do know.
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As you previously noted; their youth system will have undoubtedly played a part; both in terms of Mount, Reece James and one or two others + also a LOT of sales revenue.
Worth noting that they've been found guilty of youth recruitment breaches on (at least) two occasions now..... Pressumably this current wave of output benefited from said breaches..... Be interesting to see if they can keep this productivity up moving forward.....
Ryan Mason has 13 votes as someone's FIRST choice as our next manager. Unbelievable.
Not including he's magic you know oh
1) Conte
2) Ten Haag
3) Sarri
4) Graham Potter/Bielsa tie
1) Conte
2) Ten Haag
3) Sarri
4) Graham Potter/Bielsa tie
He’s got 13 mates? I bet one of them is Winks.
Did he say that?
Bielsa is a dreadful manager
I want attacking football but not at the expense of literally everything else
Yes. Its also true. I hate to spoil the Suns fun but we did not offer him and a load of other coaches the job.
And we're back in the game. Nah boys Its sadly simple Daniel Levy loves his EX. His Ex's wife loves London. The EX don't like Leonardo but quite likes Mbappe Messi Neymar over George Kevin N'kudu....He wants a wirl round the circuit with the Ferrari whilst the security of his Volvo is being flapped at by :nunoteeth:a bloke trying to pay of a debt. Another 14 months and he can go. By which time the
gets his car back. Which leaves your boy in Briton thumbing for a ride on the A23
Firstly, I accept right off the bat Potter lacks in terms of name-value.
However; in terms of the top 4 jobs being "closed" for the foreseeable:
Chavs: Roman's axe is NEVER too far away.... And Tuchel's proven to not be shy of a bust-up either.
Man U: Two parts to this. Firstly Conte & ZZ are both potentially combustible and possibly short-term. Secondly, look at the profile of what 'Project Ole' is and more importantly what they obviously hoped it would amount too.... Given their prior interest in Poch; don't you think that Poch 2.0 (sic) aka Potter could be a tempting prospect for them?
City: I've no doubt they'll keep Pep as long as he's willing to stay, but numerous times over the last 2 years, he's made curious noises about breaks, retirement etc. Also, although likely pretty hollow at this stage; Potter is begining to be whispered about in the press with regard to being PGs eventual successor.
Dippers: Gerrard factor accepted, but who knows... Things could go south for him in the meantime. Jürgen Klopp plans sabbatical when Liverpool contract is up in 2024
......Who knows how high Potters stock will rise over the next 6-12 months?
As cliched as it is to say; things change and yes, indeed, that could include Potter's outlook too.... I shan't deny that possibility.
My position in the other thread was to - for now - simply to heed the most concrete thing that we do know.
I think your assessment of all these teams shows exactly why Potter may consider us. None of these jobs are even close to guarantees, there is no telling how long he'll have to wait. And if he ends up stagnating at Brighton (very possible) they won't even be interested. Right now if he's offered the chance to manage us with a huge budget and we give him a wage, I don't see that being turned down. What we've probably offered him is a similar budget to Nuno (I.e pathetic) and little power to do anything major.
And even if we dismiss Potter, there are other managers. Parker in the summer would be gettable while we go for a caretaker now. Fonseca looks like he might go to Newcastle but I'd take him over Nuno as well. There's a whole bunch of managers in Europe out there who are decent coaches and who will give us a more progressive style of football which the fans don't turn on within a couple of weeks.
Of course there are other managers apart from Nuno (I certainly have no attachment to him). That's the part of the discussion that interests me the most... That; how available they are and most of all, what their goal should be for them if hired. To be brutally honest, I find the whole "anyone but Nuno" attitude rather purile.... Especially with names like Dyche, Howe, Arteta & Rafa being tossed about.
I've asked the same question in a number of threads now, but what would be the goal for any quick-fix or place-holder boss people are suggesting:
.....6th and a cup?
.....9th and slightly better looking football?
....A few months of rest-bite from Nuno and then thown to the dogs in anticipation of the next bloke?
I don't know myself, but "Waaaah! Bin Nuno; his beard is shit!!!" is the easy part.
I genuinely think Mason did a better job in his short stint than Nuno has done so far. At this point, I'd prefer to sack Nuno, put Mason in charge and then try and make a proper job of things in the summer.
I do fear though, that Levy has become incapable of making a good football decision. Maybe Uncle Joe could give Levy the boot and really try and reboot the club. I can't see it though.
I do fear though, that Levy has become incapable of making a good football decision. Maybe Uncle Joe could give Levy the boot and really try and reboot the club. I can't see it though.
Lewis couldn’t care less if we are a winning team or not. Levy makes him too much money
Significantly better football and see where it takes us. Won't be hard, we're barely above relegation standard when it comes to chance creation stats. A manager who can come in for the rest of the season and get the team pressing and looking like we're coached in an attacking sense. Where we finish is partly down to how other teams perform, I'm not interest in arbitrary league targets.
Anyone but Nuno isn't purile, it's just sense. He was a pointless appointment from the start and the longer he stays here the longer we waste on him rather than getting somebody who wants to play football that the fans deserve, which is not hit and hope Dier long balls as our primary creative force.