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I gave Conte a 7 because I actually enjoyed the game. First one in agesLoool Conte's rating!!! For what? We weren't very good lads.
First 15mins was good, showed signs of a structure, stretching oppo defence with high and wide FB's on BOTH sides (none of this lopsided FB shitness seen under the dinosaur and Nuno), pinning them back too, then have progressive runs of FB's rotating with Son/Lucas and have them cutting inside (as per Davies creating 1st goal). But this lasted for 20mins, the game is 90mins long for which the remaining 70mins were a bit shit.
Just rate the game for what happened, not how happy you are for Conte to be our manager. It's OK if he gets a shit rating, he hasn't been here long enough to effect anything. But a shit performance is still a shit performance and he's our manager, there's every chance to rate him highly when the performances reflect it as I'm confident in his ability to improve us.
Bias ratings against players you hate dispite them playing well, followed bias ratings against a manager because you are pleased he is here! Fucking hell!
I enjoyed the first 20 mins and even within those it wasn't as dominant as the scoreline suggested but did reflect the quality of our forwards.I gave Conte a 7 because I actually enjoyed the game. First one in ages
Loool Conte's rating!!! For what? We weren't very good lads.
First 15mins was good, showed signs of a structure, stretching oppo defence with high and wide FB's on BOTH sides (none of this lopsided FB shitness seen under the dinosaur and Nuno), pinning them back too, then have progressive runs of FB's rotating with Son/Lucas and have them cutting inside (as per Davies creating 1st goal). But this lasted for 20mins, the game is 90mins long for which the remaining 70mins were a bit shit.
Just rate the game for what happened, not how happy you are for Conte to be our manager. It's OK if he gets a shit rating, he hasn't been here long enough to effect anything. But a shit performance is still a shit performance and he's our manager, there's every chance to rate him highly when the performances reflect it as I'm confident in his ability to improve us.
Bias ratings against players you hate dispite them playing well, followed bias ratings against a manager because you are pleased he is here! Fucking hell!
Do you just hate every Spurs manager irrespective of who it is?Loool Conte's rating!!! For what? We weren't very good lads.
First 15mins was good, showed signs of a structure, stretching oppo defence with high and wide FB's on BOTH sides (none of this lopsided FB shitness seen under the dinosaur and Nuno), pinning them back too, then have progressive runs of FB's rotating with Son/Lucas and have them cutting inside (as per Davies creating 1st goal). But this lasted for 20mins, the game is 90mins long for which the remaining 70mins were a bit shit.
Just rate the game for what happened, not how happy you are for Conte to be our manager. It's OK if he gets a shit rating, he hasn't been here long enough to effect anything. But a shit performance is still a shit performance and he's our manager, there's every chance to rate him highly when the performances reflect it as I'm confident in his ability to improve us.
Bias ratings against players you hate dispite them playing well, followed bias ratings against a manager because you are pleased he is here! Fucking hell!
Did you even read what I posted about the first 20mins?We came out with real attacking intent and looked like we could score goals again. For that alone he deserves big credit. Conte then showed the bollocks to make 3 subs at once and all had a positive impact. The objective was to win the game, the other priority was to entertain the fans with our attacking play. Conte delivered on both of these grounds. Stop being so negative, you will get your chance to moan soon enough. Enjoy the victory, enjoy the attacking intent.
Edit: you gave him a 6/10? Jesus
I am over the fucking moon Conte is our manager!Do you just hate every Spurs manager irrespective of who it is?
Well, he was our manager, he is in the list of individuals to be rated.Imagine arguing over a Conte rating for a game he was forbidden by law from preparing the team for.
Patience young padawans, real information will come in time.
I did and you spoke a lot of sense, shame about the rest of your post.Did you even read what I posted about the first 20mins?
it's not about negative or positive, it's about removing bias and being fair with ratings, nothing else.I did and you spoke a lot of sense, shame about the rest of your post.
This is my last post on the matter as I am not going to argue with someone who wants to focus on the negatives.
Whether or not you feel you’re being negative is irrelevant, I’m happy about yesterday and hope you feel happy too.
Was I wrong to give him (too high) a 7?I am over the fucking moon Conte is our manager!
Just that that was NOT an 8/10 performance.
it's not about negative or positive, it's about removing bias and being fair with ratings, nothing else.
If that performance happened under Nuno or the dinosaur would you have given them an 8/10?
Rating a manager on an individual game is kind of inherently dumb, but especially so in this case.Well, he was our manager, he is in the list of individuals to be rated.
So we rate a performance based on what exactly? What we want? Want we expect in the future? His kudos and aura?
Or how about something novel like we played?
And that's the point. If people would have given Nuno 2 or 3 how the fuck can you rate Conte with an 8??? It makes absolutely no sense.Was I wrong to give him (too high) a 7?
Were you wrong (too low) to give him a 6?
What score would Nuno have been given? 2? 3?
Point is, he set the team up well, made good subs IMO and 7 (yes, possibly even 8) is a fair score. The team were shot after 30 mins. Fitness will come, it will be demanded from Conte.
it's not about negative or positive, it's about removing bias and being fair with ratings, nothing else.
If that performance happened under Nuno or the dinosaur would you have given them an 8/10?
As opposed to rating how we played?Rating a manager on an individual game is kind of inherently dumb, but especially so in this case.
0/10 didn’t do any lunatic shit on the touchline.
We did all you said but for 20mins, no more than that. From that moment onwards we were 2nd best. We were outplayed and outshot at home by a team placed 5th in the Dutch league. Our "system" lasted no more than 20mins.If it were Nuno/Jose’s first match with no virtually no preparation time. If they had just joined in the same circumstances as Conte where we have been an utter chore to watch for the past 2 years or so then no. I wouldn’t give them a 8/10 because I’d give them a 9/10 as I did with Conte.
In the first game we have a system already in place (maybe some tweaks in regards to 352/343), we showed attacking content, we reminded the fans that we can be entertaining, that we can score goals, that the manager will make proactive subs.
I’d have loved to have won 5-0 after that start, but Lucas giving the ball away, some ropey defensive decisions, Romero getting sent off happened and they came back into the game. Conte made the subs that swung the game back into our favour.
Enjoy the win, enjoy the 3 goals. These things haven’t happened too much for us recently.