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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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I was not happy with the disengaged way Kane played under Nuno and I also believe he's gotten out of shape (to me he looks a little heavier and slow off the mark). That said I didn't expect it would be like turning on a light switch and first game under Conte he would be back at his best. His timing and conditioning are off and now it is a matter of how long it takes for him to get it back. If he is still at Spurs after the transfer window closes and doesn't look better that's a major problem that will require the absence of his presence. But right now we just don't know. Saw a little more movement today at least. I still believe there is a reasonably good chance he is a much different player by the new year's arrival.
 
He was shit, but Son was equally shit whilst not creating our best chance of the game like Kane did. But Son's thread hasn't even been bumped, shockingly enough.
No there's an obvious reason for this Son didn't disrespect the club and fellow pros whilst trying to force a move. He didn't not acknowledge a win over said club. He had also actually won us games this season. It would be illogical to go after him over the homegrown hero responsible for all of the above.
 
No there's an obvious reason for this Son didn't disrespect the club and fellow pros whilst trying to force a move. He didn't not acknowledge a win over said club. He had also actually won us games this season. Ot would be illogical to go after him over the homegrown hero responsible for all of the above.

I'm not interested in making Kane a scapegoat because he was a dick in the summer. I judge players on a game to game basis, not whether I like them or not. Son was worse today, and was terrible against United and West Ham too. He's had one game all season (vs villa) where he's actually played genuinely well.

Pretending Kane is the root of all our attacking problems won't fix anything, they're all underperforming. Kane should be criticised for yet another shit performance, but not scapegoated, which is what is obviously happening.
 
NDomBadBoy[/USER] is by far our best player and a class above, so we should definitely expect more from him than Kane. And Son was worse today, desire or not. Offered fuck all throughout the 90.
Isolate the variable and see the team results.
We are absolute dogshit without Son.
Without Kane, we get better results. And this has been the case for 3+ years.

Spurs w/o Kane but Son Playing
Man City 1-0 Win
Wolves 1-0 Win

Spurs w/o Son but Kane Playing
Palace 0-3 Loss
Rennes (ECL) 2-2 Draw
Burnly (EFL) 0-0 for 70 mins until Son came on
 
You backed the wrong horse
You was told

It’s ok to lash out after the fact

'I rate him as a world-class goalscorer. At his best capable of 40 goals a season in all comps, which is exceptional. Generally gonna average 20-30 which still puts him in a very high category. Top 5 itw striker generally, but a clear step behind Lewandowski or Benzema at their very best.'

My own words on here. You can make stuff up all you like, if you can't back it up then it's better to shut up. I've never said Kane=Lewandowski. Only that he was one of the better CF's around at his best .. which he clearly isn't currently.

What horse did you back?
 
Isolate the variable and see the team results.
We are absolute dogshit without Son.
Without Kane, we get better results. And this has been the case for 3+ years.

Spurs w/o Kane but Son Playing
Man City 1-0 Win
Wolves 1-0 Win

Spurs w/o Son but Kane Playing
Palace 0-3 Loss
Rennes (ECL) 2-2 Draw
Burnly (EFL) 0-0 for 70 mins until Son came on
Some can’t say Kane is shit without mentioning someone else was also shit

If I say Dier was shit, do they say SO WAS HOJBERG WHY ARENT YOU IN HIS THREAD!!!!????

:harrylol:
 
'I rate him as a world-class goalscorer. At his best capable of 40 goals a season in all comps, which is exceptional. Generally gonna average 20-30 which still puts him in a very high category. Top 5 itw striker generally, but a clear step behind Lewandowski or Benzema at their very best.'

My own words on here. You can make stuff up all you like, if you can't back it up then it's better to shut up. I've never said Kane=Lewandowski. Only that he was one of the better CF's around at his best .. which he clearly isn't currently.

What horse did you back?
I’m still backing the horse his replacement comes riding in on
 
Some can’t say Kane is shit without mentioning someone else was also shit

If I say Dier was shit, do they say SO WAS HOJBERG WHY ARENT YOU IN HIS THREAD!!!!????

:harrylol:

Criticise Kane all you want, but there's a difference between criticism and scapegoating. I'm not interested in the latter at all, and it's what you and others do in here, hence why you don't say a single thing when Son has put in multiple stinkers in a row.
 
He’s been horribly out of form since before the euros. He’s not the only one in this team for sure but he definitely looks like the most unfit.

Combination of being mentally checked out at spurs and a lack of proper conditioning under mourinho/Nuno catching up with him? Don’t think there is much goodwill towards him these days either way

Need to see a pretty sharp improvement in him if we’re gonna have a decent season though
 
Criticise Kane all you want, but there's a difference between criticism and scapegoating. I'm not interested in the latter at all, and it's what you and others do in here, hence why you don't say a single thing when Son has put in multiple stinkers in a row.
Because he and Moura are playing with Kane...
Hard to look good when you're playing a PL side and Kane is leading your line
There's zero movement/dynamism up front
It's a simple concept really
 
Because he's playing with Kane...
Hard to look good when you're playing a decent side and Kane is leading your line
There's zero movement/dynamism up front
It's a simple concept really

Yeah that causes him to be unable to trap a ball, lose it constantly when he tries to beat his man, make shit passes constantly .. etc etc. All because he happens to play on the same field as Kane.

Boring excuses for one player, total scapegoating for the other. Which is why I never take any of the shit you say seriously, it's all agenda city.
 
I'm not interested in making Kane a scapegoat because he was a dick in the summer. I judge players on a game to game basis, not whether I like them or not. Son was worse today, and was terrible against United and West Ham too. He's had one game all season (vs villa) where he's actually played genuinely well.

Pretending Kane is the root of all our attacking problems won't fix anything, they're all underperforming. Kane should be criticised for yet another shit performance, but not scapegoated, which is what is obviously happening.
Err you seem to be answering questions only you have posed. Kane is not being scapegoated. You asked why his(Sons) thread had not been bumped YOU then mentioned Kane. Do you not see how contradictory your posts are. So I gave you the reason. Both been poor one has actually won us games this season and not been a source of disharmony. Its no deep conspiracy and pretty logical if you think about it.
 
I'm not getting involved the continued debate on Kane, other than saying I think he will be better under Conte.

I believe to judge him today and think he would be so much different to how he has performed during the season to date is folly.

Like the team, and I think they are linked, I prefer to give it 6 weeks to assess any material changes.

As ever all I care about is us as club.
 
He has to spend some time on the bench now. Would of done the world of good for Southgate to not have picked him to give him the kick up the arse he needed. He's dug himself into this rut so I have no sympathy for him. If he'd of acted more professionally instead of downing tools towards the back end of last season then he probably wouldn't be in this state.
 
Forever because we actually don't have anybody else.

That's the most frustrating thing for me and that's not actually Kane's fault. The way this squad has been allowed to become totally dependent on him as a striker is laughably inept management.
We kind of do

Bergwijn Son Moura as the front 3

That was the front 3 when we beat Man City and Wolves at the beginning of the season when Kane was on his self imposed excile.

Those 2 games produce 21 shots and 9 shots on target.
 
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