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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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Igula Igula will be made to earn his keep round here from now on?

Nice. :nunothumb:
 
Okay quite simple as that, and i will try not making it too long.

Klopp has build this around 7 years. How can we compare it to Conte 6 months with us ?

And Klopp actually start improving his team by spending huge. And he got all the control in Liverpool, and has zero pressure on him for delivering or not.
Even if he finished 10th, he won't be touched. Conte will be sacked straight away.

But a bit of history lesson:
Van Diijk 85m.
Alisson 75m.
Keita 60m.
Fabinho 45m
Jota 45m
Salah 42m
Mane 42m
Chamberlain 38m

And you get the picture.
And now they spend around 100m. with the bonuses(which are easy to get) for that guy Nunez. They also paid around 60m with bonuses for Luiz Diaz.


He also got his team running his style for quite awhile, which obviously give them huge lead, unlike to changing managers in few years time.
Main reason for example why Chelsea are so so far behind in the league, yet spend big money constantly, and have a very strong squad.

Yeah Mane is gone now, but Salah will stay, and they have covers.
And whether we like it or not, Klopp is a world class coach, top 3 in the world for sure.

I don't even want to talk about City, as they have 2x world class squads, and Pepe is running that team for 6-7 year as well, which is huge.

Chelsea is in front of us in terms of players, and United was in front of us, right now i don't think so, but they will make transfers that is sure.

People should looks realistic, and the realistic part is cementing ourselves in top 4, and if Levy shows ambition to move from that point on.
We should focus on our team and try to improve it inch by inch.

Lets be real, most people here were saying all of our squad is **** and washed up, before Conte come. He has done great thing, but we were on the verge of not getting top 4. Woolwich has managed to blew it big time.

Perisic never played in the PL in his whole life. We don't know how he will do in the PL.
Serie A is played on a slow-motion compare to PL, so let's wait and see how he does, before we can say how much he can improve us.

As far as our midfielder goes i still stand by my words. We are still 1 solid Modric type of CM away from moving to next level.
We were lacking HUGE last season against tight defensive teams. We were getting dominated. And i remember games where we just can't pass the ball, and losing the ball in our side constantly.
Against a compact team with good MFs and solid on the back we suffer, because we lacked creativity.
Also we get pretty much ZERO goals from our midfielders, which is straight up bad.

And again i don't see Bentancur being that man.
And again Conte is Elite manager, no doubt about that and i would say top 5 in the world, but he is against top 5 in the world as well, on top of that they have better squad then him + 6-7 years of advance to build that team and play the way they want.

And one very important thing everyone seems to forget, we don't have the best GK in the world.
While Lloris is decent, he ain't world class, and is very prone to make silly mistake.
And before anyone trying to argue me:
He is sitting at Number 2 position with the most errors leading to goal since 2016.

And btw it's not like i don't want us to challenge for the title or straight up winning it, i just don't see it to be fair. And i prefer to have realistic expectations.
Also i already stated that the only way we challenge the 2 teams at the top is by them making mistakes, aka dropping their level or so.
If they stay at similar level i just don't see it.
And we have Chelsea, United and Woolwich to worry about as well.

You failed. :cunt:
 
Meh; let them have Tielemans...... Classic fair-weather goon player.

He'll be one of the players lacking fight that Rodgers was complaining about last season.

They seem very lightweight, Bissouma would have been good for them to add some steel but it they scream very pretty football and easy on the eye but can get bullied by more physical teams.
 
Willian continued: "Then we’re going in the van, on the way, get to the training centre, Kia, my agent, is already down there, waiting. I thought it was weird, he was already at the door. Then I got out of the van, he said, ‘we have problems’. I said ‘oh, what happened?’ Then he ‘Chelsea made an offer’. I said, ‘So make do, I’ll get back in the van, you’ll make do and I’ll go to Chelsea, I will not sign with Tottenham.
I STAYED THERE FOR EIGHT HOURS IN THE TRAINING CENTRE. TOTTENHAM’S DIRECTOR SAID ‘I’M GOING TO REPORT YOU TO FIFA, THIS AND THAT, FANS HERE IN ENGLAND WILL BOO YOU, THIS AND THAT’. THEY MADE UP A LOT OF THINGS. I GOT STUCK THERE FOR EIGHT HOURS. THEN I LEFT AND I WENT STRAIGHT TO MEET THE CHELSEA PEOPLE TO SORT THE DETAILS AND SIGN.

............................

Why did we even bother making threats to Willian in order to force him to sign and join the club. That is just ridiculous, if a player is so adamant that he doesn't want to sign then tell him to fuck off. Embarrassing and worrying at the same time.
But to be fair to Willian, he signed for the scum and fucked up their season. I think it was his way of saying to Daniel.
 
If there was just one team clear at the top we would have a better chance but it’s a bit hopeful to think that both might not be up to their usual standard. No doubt it will take 90 pts plus to win it.
If we can get to the stage with the squad where we can make 5 or 6 changes and not lose too much quality, the same as they can, then we can give it a go.
If we can get the defender and forward Conte wants then we won’t be that far off. Plus Spence and Bissouma obviously.
We forget that the season after last World Cup when we had 9 players at the last weekend. 3 weeks off, one weeks train8ng and season starts. After 19 games we had 45 points, en route for 90. We then blew up.
That was with a knackered team. It’s not impossible with a coach like Conte.
It will take City some time to get Haaland into their way of playing.

Our first XI last season was able to compete with both (8/12 points won).....

If we get the players we suspect this summer then we will have a squad of such depth.
 
Okay quite simple as that, and i will try not making it too long.

Klopp has build this around 7 years. How can we compare it to Conte 6 months with us ?

And Klopp actually start improving his team by spending huge. And he got all the control in Liverpool, and has zero pressure on him for delivering or not.
Even if he finished 10th, he won't be touched. Conte will be sacked straight away.

But a bit of history lesson:
Van Diijk 85m.
Alisson 75m.
Keita 60m.
Fabinho 45m
Jota 45m
Salah 42m
Mane 42m
Chamberlain 38m

And you get the picture.
And now they spend around 100m. with the bonuses(which are easy to get) for that guy Nunez. They also paid around 60m with bonuses for Luiz Diaz.


He also got his team running his style for quite awhile, which obviously give them huge lead, unlike to changing managers in few years time.
Main reason for example why Chelsea are so so far behind in the league, yet spend big money constantly, and have a very strong squad.

Yeah Mane is gone now, but Salah will stay, and they have covers.
And whether we like it or not, Klopp is a world class coach, top 3 in the world for sure.

I don't even want to talk about City, as they have 2x world class squads, and Pepe is running that team for 6-7 year as well, which is huge.

Chelsea is in front of us in terms of players, and United was in front of us, right now i don't think so, but they will make transfers that is sure.

People should looks realistic, and the realistic part is cementing ourselves in top 4, and if Levy shows ambition to move from that point on.
We should focus on our team and try to improve it inch by inch.

Lets be real, most people here were saying all of our squad is **** and washed up, before Conte come. He has done great thing, but we were on the verge of not getting top 4. Woolwich has managed to blew it big time.

Perisic never played in the PL in his whole life. We don't know how he will do in the PL.
Serie A is played on a slow-motion compare to PL, so let's wait and see how he does, before we can say how much he can improve us.

As far as our midfielder goes i still stand by my words. We are still 1 solid Modric type of CM away from moving to next level.
We were lacking HUGE last season against tight defensive teams. We were getting dominated. And i remember games where we just can't pass the ball, and losing the ball in our side constantly.
Against a compact team with good MFs and solid on the back we suffer, because we lacked creativity.
Also we get pretty much ZERO goals from our midfielders, which is straight up bad.

And again i don't see Bentancur being that man.
And again Conte is Elite manager, no doubt about that and i would say top 5 in the world, but he is against top 5 in the world as well, on top of that they have better squad then him + 6-7 years of advance to build that team and play the way they want.

And one very important thing everyone seems to forget, we don't have the best GK in the world.
While Lloris is decent, he ain't world class, and is very prone to make silly mistake.
And before anyone trying to argue me:
He is sitting at Number 2 position with the most errors leading to goal since 2016.

And btw it's not like i don't want us to challenge for the title or straight up winning it, i just don't see it to be fair. And i prefer to have realistic expectations.
Also i already stated that the only way we challenge the 2 teams at the top is by them making mistakes, aka dropping their level or so.
If they stay at similar level i just don't see it.
And we have Chelsea, United and Woolwich to worry about as well.

Conte won the league in his first season at Chelsea, they got 93 points which in unheard of, he won the league in his 2nd season at Inter with 91 points, he is a notorious quick fixer which is why he doesn't tend to stay long at clubs so comparing him with Klopp or Pep is pointless in this regard.
 
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For a time there it seemed they wanted to go down a tougher route..... Emre and early Arteta.

Now it seems they're reverting to type.

You always need physicality in this league to compete, almost every club who have dominated and won this league have had some real steel in their team, even the old Woolwich invincibles had players like Vieira, Lauren, Petit...some uber cunts who would refused to be bullied and stand up and be up for a fight if needed, don't really see that with them.

Obviously RE the physicality Man City are the exception but they are generally an outstanding team with an outstanding coach.
 
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