I really, really, really, really didn't know that..........
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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.
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Missed that talk, but he wrote about his time there. Interesting that even now, Putin still sends some of his enemies off to Siberia.
Good option for Sol if he's feeling underappreciated here.
But then we lost 3x time out of 3 against Chelsea. And while it wasn't just PL matches, should that mean we are going to be 0/9 again ? We also lost to United, and we are 0/6 against them, but has they finish in front of us ?
City also lost to Crystal Palace by 2-0, does that mean CP are equal or close to City level ?
Same as West Ham beating Liverpool.
But football ain't working that way, and you should have known that by now.
It's all about consistency in the PL, and to have that, you need big quality, not just in the starting 11, but on the bench as well.
And so far we are lacking in both departments, not just to them, but to Chelsea too.
They are after all both geniuses
Firstable i'm Conte huge fan, and his achievements are incredible. I already said he is top 5 in the world. But even he has his limits.
Now the situation is a lot different. There is 2 monsters in City and Liverpool, that are already build in teams, unlike when he won with Chelsea, Klopp was in his 6 month off at Pool, and Guardiola and Mou at both City team, they were on equal level. Kinda not equal, they spend more than him, and have better squad, and he compensate with his quality, and beat them all.
But now the gap is way, way wider.
In Italy, Juventus was past their best time by far, still his achievement was huge, but he beat Pioli and Pirlo who managed AC Milan and Juventus .
Completely different situation.
Also i don't see us having the wild joker that he had in this teams, aka Eden Hazard, who was absolutely world class player at that time, and Diego Costa, who was unstoppable at that time.
Also both City and Liverpool are miles stronger now.
I'm not saying he won't close the gap. He will do it, but not in just one season, where he is handicapped by quite a huge margin, compare to other teams.
He will do it, but in number of seasons, if he is backed and if he decide to stay and fight for it.
As far as his points winning, he knows how to be consistent and to win with tons of point, he still keep that record of 102 points with Juventus in 2013-2014.
He also have a fully unbeaten season with them as well, so he knows his work.
then he ruined the squad buying lukaku for 100M
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Conte had us at 2 points per game, so 76 points over a full season. We were only 5 points off it. There's no much to gain there, but...
- Kane will (hopefully) be focused, fit and firing from the start to end
- Romero and Skipp will play the full season (hopefully)
- Tactics will be a lot more drilled into the players
- Doherty could have a breakout season
- Proper pre-season for Kulu, Bentancur
- Big signings
We will however have to play a lot more games, and no amount of rotation can make up for what Son and Kane can do, and Conte will have very little time to analyse and prepare for the opposition.
If we do well, I can see us squeaking past Liverpool, because as you said, they're only really adding Nunez (so far), and there's not much room for improvement in the starting 11.
City on the other hand have been playing without a striker and LB for ages, Cucurella and Haaland will be massive. Spamming crosses to Haaland might finally beat us.
He wasn't a Tuchel choice.
So what one's most akin to Tuchel?
..........Conte or DiMatteo?
Your point here seems to be little beyond that a manager can't hit the ground running in the EPL....
....Were you not watching us last season?
....Did you not see Conte in his first year at Chelsea?
......Poch had us in a title race in season #2
Will we win the league? Likely not..... Can we close the gap and give City & Liverpool another to legitimatly worry about? .....Absolutely.
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Would you not concede though that with a full season (and pre-season), that PPG last season might have risen further?
We'd have beat Everton away for starters (his first game with virtually no prep time)...... Would Palace have destroyed us? ....Would we have been a complete tactical shambles away to the Goons?
......It's easy to see where further points may have come from.
They still have big, solid CBs... Walker's no slouch, physically..... Rodri, Fernandino, Gundoghan...... Even KDB is no lightweight.
I hope to God we are not left fcuking around trying to sign an essential striker of some quality.
I see it happening despite a strong start to the summer transfers.
It would be incomprehensible were it to happen again, because eventually you get completely caught out.
Whatever else we do this window and we are still 3 or 4 short, a striker of quality is an absolute priority.
I see it happening despite a strong start to the summer transfers.
It would be incomprehensible were it to happen again, because eventually you get completely caught out.
Whatever else we do this window and we are still 3 or 4 short, a striker of quality is an absolute priority.
Yeah by all accounts you might be right but you have to take context into account, Conte finished the season with an 11-2-3 record, his defence conceded 5 in the last 11 and had the 2nd highest amount of goals in the league since the turn of the new year.
Looks to me like he fixed the defence to me and this is largely without Romero who missed 17 matches in the whole of last season and his first choice full backs towards the end of the season.
This is all without a pre season by the way and him coming in in November whilst only having 1 transfer window since Jan, you say that Liverpool and City will improve but we have gone up serious levels in a few months, the only reason what's held us back is the personnel and specifically the weak spots and that's being improved on already and we will add more too.
The wild joker(s) we have in our teams are Son and Kane who are arguably 2 of the best forwards in the league surely?
Worth noting we finished 22 points off top spot last season, that's 7 wins - if you think about the amount of stupid losses we had last season (5 due to Nuno tax and silly stuff like Burnley away, Southampton/Wolves at home) we could claw back quite a lot of points there.
Obviously we know things don't quite work like that cause it's hard to imagine us doing the double over City again for example but that shows you the gap isn't as insurmountable as people think.
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As far as I know his value is £86 million.
We were the 3rd most consistent team in the EPL under Conte.
Adding 6 high quality players = better first XI and in turn better depth.
I've not said we'll win the league, but it doesn't take rocket science to conclude we could have the ability to significantly close the gap.
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I think people here are underrating him a lot. Maybe not a city/Liverpool quality player, but as a goal scoring no 8, he's pretty decent.
I think he'd be a better signing for us than them. We have the defensive foundation accomodate him, so that against the bus parkers, Bissouma can be like Rodri, shutting down counter attacks, and recycling possession, while Tielemans tries to find the key pass, take long range shots and get into the box. Not against the big boys/CL though.
For the gooners, I think he'd be a very very bad signing. They're an indisciplined side lacking defensive solidity, Partey gets injured every other week, and they already have Odegaard and bought that Porto kid's who also a defesively weak pass maestro. They need a PEH/Bentancur who can back up Partey or play with him when they want to defend a lead.
