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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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If they get their targets then Sterling/Havertz/Raphinha is a frightening front 3.

"Frightening"???

Pale in comparison to the blend and raw firepower of ours.

Especially with Mount behind that with how productive he is.

........Which would require them to play 4231; which is pretty damn hypothetical given the manager has just fucked off Lukaku in order to stick to his preferred system.
 
He's direct, strong, two footed, can score with his head, play RW,.LW, CF and as you have said he's done it in a very poor Everton team.

Also love his work ethic:

In 173 games his defensive input is as follows:

Tackles273
Blocked shots123
Interceptions78
Clearances176
Headed Clearance126

He has also averaged a goal every 3 games in his career and of his Assists have come from.32 big chances created so you'd like to think with better quality teammates around him that figure will get better as well.

PL experience who can cover RW, LW, FWD who can score and assist with his left, right, get goals with his head and doesn't mind the dirty work defensively. I am absolutely all for it for the depth and variety he offers.

Comparing Sons defensive contributions

232 games
Defence
Tackles156
Blocked shots127
Interceptions83
Clearances54
Headed Clearance23

Richarlison could even help us concede less from set pieces as well given his high headed clearance numbers. I think he could offer us fantastic diversity all in all.
His defensive output will surely translate well to us with Conte, a team that generally doesn't hog the ball.

Attacking wise, he's the least stereotypically Brazilian forward around. Don't expect many worldies, or some nice dribbling before a goal, or a sublime pass to create a chance. He just runs at the opposition midfield, backline till they coughing up the ball, or flings a foot or head at balls into the box and manages to get goals.

It's this that makes a lot of people nervous about spending 60m on him. I'm hopeful he can develop those aspects somewhat.
 
He (Lenglet) was better than Bastoni was at the same age, he's got some flaws in his make up, but I don't think he's any more flawed than Bastoni, and Lenglet's even better on the ball, still one of the most comfortable CB's around on the ball. Bastoni, less mobile, would have looked even worse than Lenglet playing for this basket case Barca in a CB2 than Lenglet has IMO.

We're being linked with a bunch of LCB's, from what I've seen of them, they've all got upside, but I can't think of one out there that doesn't have some kind of flaw, so Lenglet on a try before you buy for a 5-10m hit seems like reasonably Ok business which allows us to still buy a couple more CB's anyway.

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And like he wouldn't be an upgrade on Davies FFS.
And Conte is brilliant at getting the very best out of players as we've seen with the improvement of so many of ours from where they were before (Davies, Dier, Sess, Bent, Kulu as examples).

I honestly think so long as we get players who are prepared to work their hardest and follow his methods then whoever we get in will do well and improve us. With Para in charge I have a lot more faith in our recruitment than before.
 
"Frightening"???

Pale in comparison to the blend and raw firepower of ours.



........Which would require them to play 4231; which is pretty damn hypothetical given the manager has just fucked off Lukaku in to stick to his preferred system.

Sterling is one of the best left wingers in the league and almost guarantees double figures. Raphinha has been the best RW after Salah in England for a couple of years now. Havertz is very good at linking play and has lots of potential. Mount adds another player who gets you double figures.

Is ours better? Yes, Son & Kane are elite. But Chelsea have better players elsewhere, so to also have real firepower could very much be worrying.
 
Yet you'd still take Son over Sterling, Kane over Havertz, and maybe even Kulu over Raphina.

Sure, but I’d also start Son & Kane for Liverpool & City. We just happen to have two of the best players out there.

But Chelsea will blend that with a whole bunch of quality across the rest of the pitch. The realistic aim for us this season should be to leapfrog them but these signings will really strengthen them.
 
Chelsea have better players elsewhere, so to also have real firepower could very much be worrying.
That's the key part for me. The fact that we're now unlikely to secure that top LCB, or RWB, or even a AM like Eriksen (or our version of mount, whatever you wanna call it) is worrying.

Thankfully they are looking pretty thin in other areas of the pitch due to recent departures.
 
That's the key part for me. The fact that we're now unlikely to secure that top LCB, or RWB, or even a AM like Eriksen (or our version of mount, whatever you wanna call it) is worrying.

Thankfully they are looking pretty thin in other areas of the pitch due to recent departures.

Lack of RWB improvement is a tad disappointing, tbh. I don’t see Spence as a solution (more potential) and Emerson/Doherty just aren’t good enough for a CL team. You look at the top 3s options and it’s a huge gap. We’d essentially be relying on a 33 year old Perisic for all our tangible wing back threat. Risky.

I think Lenglet could be a shrewd LCB signing and would actually be quite happy with him. But you’re right about lacking that one midfielder .. we are so reliant on the front 3, we’ve got a bunch of hard working, ball winning midfielders but little craft at all in there. Bissouma can carry the ball but he won’t pick out players.

If Chelsea got all their current targets and we got ours, I’d say they’d remain favourites for finishing third. Up to Conte to work some magic on that front.
 
Sterling is one of the best left wingers in the league and almost guarantees double figures.

Son is arguably the best (esp. now Mane has gone)...... "Double figures?" Sonny says "meh"....

Raphinha has been the best RW after Salah in England for a couple of years now.

He's only been there 2 years all told, ffs... Think you're getting carried away here.

He got 6G / 9A in 30 apps in 20/21 in a team everyone was drooling over for their kamikaze football.

Kulu just got 5G/8A in half a season.

Havertz is very good at linking play and has lots of potential.

Kane stomps him.

Mount adds another player who gets you double figures.

Tuchel is in no hurry to start playing 4231 so your trying to shoehorn in the notion of a front 4 is moot.

Is ours better? Yes, Son & Kane are elite. But Chelsea have better players elsewhere, so to also have real firepower could very much be worrying.

The convo wasn't "who has the best team".

FWIW tho'....... Currently, they barely have a defense and we just bagged a game-changing MFer.
 
We still need a centreback, fuck the age he plays like he's in his 20's, bring in the greatest defender of his generation


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Kane and Son have been two of the five best goalscorers in the league for years now. Only Salah and Mane have been at their level and Mane is gone.

If we get a full season of what Kulusevski did when we signed him plus Richarlison as a rotation option, there’s no doubt we’re equal or better than any attack in England. It’s our clear strength.

Midfield is improved but not at the level of City, Liverpool, or Chelsea. Definitely top 4 level though.

Backline you feel good about Romero, Dier, and Perisic. Spence at least is a dedicated RWB unlike Emerson. LCB we’re swinging big but been unlucky with Bastoni. TBD.
 
I'm somewhat confused why people are always saying things like we're getting/targeting a couple of the best players outside the top six when it is Bissouma and Raphinha but that doesn't equally apply to Richarlison. He's comfortably been Everton's best player for the last 4 seasons and still is only 25.

Everton have also been absolutely dross as everyone knows. I looked up who led them in assists during Richarlison's four seasons there and it was Richarlison himself this year (followed by Gray and Doucoure), Digne last year, and then Sigurdsson the previous two years. The lad has been feeding on absolute scraps in terms of service. In playing in a competent side with Brazil, he was their second leading scorer in WC qualifying behind only Neymar.

He's been at an elite level in terms of percentage of his team's goal involvements (G/A), he's by far Everton's best and most important player during the period he's been there. A couple of examples:

Richarlison (Age 21-25):
  • 18/19: Involved in 26% of Everton's goals
  • 19/20: 37%
  • 20/21: 22%
  • 21/22: 35%
Total: 30%

Son (Age 23-30)
  • 15/16: 7%
  • 16/17: 23%
  • 17/18: 24%
  • 18/19: 27%
  • 19/20: 34%
  • 20/21: 40%
  • 21/22: 44%
Total: 28.5%

Gabriel Jesus (Age 20-25):
  • 17/18: 15%
  • 18/19: 10.5%
  • 19/20: 20.5%
  • 20/21: 16%
  • 21/22: 16%
Total: 15.6%

Sadio Mane at Southampton (Age 22-24)
  • 14/15: 24%
  • 15/16: 29%
Total: 26.5%

Diogo Jota at Wolves (Age 21-23)
  • 18/19: 29%
  • 19/20: 16%
Total: 22.5%

Raphinha at Leeds (Age 23-25)
  • 20/21: 24%
  • 21/22: 33%
Total: 28.5%

People seem to hold Everton's record against him, but I actually think it is a positive in my eyes. He's been a consistent goalscorer playing with absolute dross and under 5 (!!!) different managers. Imagine what he could do playing with class like Kane, Son, Kulusevski, etc. and in a settled system coached by a world class manager in Conte. He could absolutely blow up here.


Appears that Woolwich have got an absolute bargain....

Gabriel Jesus (Age 20-25):
  • 17/18: 15%
  • 18/19: 10.5%
  • 19/20: 20.5%
  • 20/21: 16%
  • 21/22: 16%
 
Son is arguably the best (esp. now Mane has gone)...... "Double figures?" Sonny says "meh"....



He's only been there 2 years all told, ffs... Think you're getting carried away here.

He got 6G / 9A in 30 apps in 20/21 in a team everyone was drooling over for their kamikaze football.

Kulu just got 5G/8A in half a season.



Kane stomps him.



Tuchel is in no hurry to start playing 4231 so your trying to shoehorn in the notion of a front 4 is moot.



The convo wasn't "who has the best team".

FWIW tho'....... Currently, they barely have a defense and we just bagged a game-changing MFer.

Chelsea's front 3 can be worse than ours and still frightening .. we have the best in the league with Son & Kane there. I'm not interested in doing like for like comparisons, their 3 on paper is PL proven & has bags of pace and technical ability. It's dangerous. Let's not be silly and pretend we wouldn't all be jumping up and down if Sterling and Raphinha were joining us.

And the point was that it is frightening when you consider it's their weakest area. Their midfield, wing backs & goalkeeper are all top class. If they step up going forward it hurts us badly. As for defence, we know they’ll sign players, probably two. We’re busy crossing off every left sided defender in Europe on our list.
 
Lack of RWB improvement is a tad disappointing, tbh. I don’t see Spence as a solution (more potential) and Emerson/Doherty just aren’t good enough for a CL team. You look at the top 3s options and it’s a huge gap. We’d essentially be relying on a 33 year old Perisic for all our tangible wing back threat. Risky.

I think Lenglet could be a shrewd LCB signing and would actually be quite happy with him. But you’re right about lacking that one midfielder .. we are so reliant on the front 3, we’ve got a bunch of hard working, ball winning midfielders but little craft at all in there. Bissouma can carry the ball but he won’t pick out players.

If Chelsea got all their current targets and we got ours, I’d say they’d remain favourites for finishing third. Up to Conte to work some magic on that front.
Such a shame about Bastoni, Gvardiol. Making our transfer warchest look a bit redundant. All these years we've been cash strapped, but now we're ready spend but there are no obvious way spend it.

Will still be pissed if we don't secure an attack minded CM, and another half decent player to sit on the bench alongside Richarlison. Those are not hard to do.

I think it will be close. We were close last season despite an absolute clusterfuck first half of the season, and gaping holes in the squad, like bringing on Winks when Bentancur got injured against Burnley.
 
Chelsea's front 3 can be worse than ours and still frightening .. we have the best in the league with Son & Kane there. I'm not interested in doing like for like comparisons, their 3 on paper is PL proven & has bags of pace and technical ability. It's dangerous. Let's not be silly and pretend we wouldn't all be jumping up and down if Sterling and Raphinha were joining us.

Your straw-manning mate.... That's completely nothing to do with the convo that was taking place; nor anything I've said to you.

Again, we we're being sold the (tiresome) myth that somehow our attacking options are inferior.

Happy to take Sterling & Raphina.... But I'd still pick the front 3 we currently have for a big game,


And the point was that it is frightening when you consider it's their weakest area.
Their midfield, wing backs & goalkeeper are all top class.

CBs - Spurs
WBs - Chavs (although you could argue Perisic > Chillwel)
MF - Draw (For what we need in our system, we're set.....)
Attack - Spurs.

If they step up going forward it hurts us badly. As for defence, we know they’ll sign players, probably two. We’re busy crossing off every left sided defender in Europe on our list.

Our business isn't finished either.
 
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