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But when he says he gets on well with Levy that's when he's lying?

LOL
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And the point is their fans mostly hated their owners KronkeOUT was big for the scum and the scousers don't like FSG!

This is my point we don't exist in isolation.
every fucking fanabase thinks their owners should buy more.

Buying more is way down my list of problems with ENIC. I was very annoyed we didn't back Pochettino fully & I do think we cheap out on wages especially, but I understand this is the case for most owners who aren't sugar daddies.

I just haven't enjoyed the on field plan from ENIC in recent years, for loads of reasons. We're going for these big name, short term 'winner' managers but still looking unlikely to win a thing. So uh, what's the point?
 
Literally already posted above

yeah I'd say they are, the point is Liverpool are just like us and feel their aging squad hasn't been properly invested in and Klopp hasn't been backed.

go figure eh!
Yes but with domestic cups, league title & CL to show for it. If you can’t seen the massive difference in that then I can’t help you.
 
We're talking right now? Then yeah.

I prefer their current philosophy. Youth are being given a chance, the football they play is easier on the eye & their investment has been focused on exciting to watch, young footballers. They've got loads wrong in the past but in the here and now? I'd swap.

Our focus currently is on 'winning' managers (without the us actually winning anything part) who play outdated football for big pay packets, aside from when we went dull & cheap under Nuno. I can sort of accept not winning stuff (although it sucks) as long as it's not a chore to watch us play.
If ENIC had bought into a club a year after it went undefeated in the EPL and the bought a controlling interest and turned them from a perennial top four and title contender and CL challenger into a club that couldn’t get into the third tier European competition in a decade of ownership, I would be calling for them to be lynched as would everyone else on this board.
I get that you have a man-crush on this current Woolwich team but Kroenke’s overall ownership has been fricking appalling — which at least one of us finds a good thing.
 
My first real memory is the Ricky Villa final.

My first game was actually as a minor away at Bristol Rovers in around '78 I think. It was the season we beat them 9-0 at home
Mine was the semi final 1991 with that Gazza free kick & then winning in the final. I don’t care about others looking down their nose at a fa cup. I’d love us to win another one.
Part of the reason I have gone off football is that It’s more important to get 4th than win a fa cup :dawsonmean:
 
If ENIC had bought into a club a year after it went undefeated in the EPL and the bought a controlling interest and turned them from a perennial top four and title contender and CL challenger into a club that couldn’t get into the third tier European competition in a decade of ownership, I would be calling for them to be lynched as would everyone else on this board.
I get that you have a man-crush on this current Woolwich team but Kroenke’s overall ownership has been fricking appalling — which at least one of us finds a good thing.

Yawn.

The question was which would you swap for. I gave my answer and justified it. You're talking about the past, in which I've already recognised their ownership has been incompetent. But I prefer the way this Woolwich team is being moulded to whatever we're doing.

I'd rather be grown ups and not do the whole extremely boring 'you think Woolwich are doing something well? You must support them!' thing but I can see it's going that way. One is perfectly capable of hating them as a club but also having eyes and seeing that they're currently doing a lot of things we used to pride ourselves on.

It seems others agree. Maybe they're all Woolwich fans too. Or maybe they just like attacking football, investing in young players & developing others via the academy. You know, like 99% of football fans.
 
We're talking right now? Then yeah.

I prefer their current philosophy. Youth are being given a chance, the football they play is easier on the eye & their investment has been focused on exciting to watch, young footballers. They've got loads wrong in the past but in the here and now? I'd swap.

Our focus currently is on 'winning' managers (without the us actually winning anything part) who play outdated football for big pay packets, aside from when we went dull & cheap under Nuno. I can sort of accept not winning stuff (although it sucks) as long as it's not a chore to watch us play.
I cant stand them, but they've actually given us a pretty good blueprint to be successful without having man city money. It will take time and it will suck, but its the only way.

There is no shortcut to success for clubs like us.
 
From the top 6? Chelsea, Woolwich & Liverpool.

Loads from the rest of the league if they had ENIC money. Lots of clubs with a way stronger focus on recruitment who focus on at least giving the fans attractive football.
This is a great answer tbf.

The bullet point being ENIC money. And also the fact we have one of the largest fanbases in the country and the highest match day revenue in Europe.

We really should be able to invest far more money in our playing squad than we actually do.
 
My Point is that if you or JT were Liverpool fans you'd likely be on RAWK right now complaining about the owners and their lack of spending.
I’d still be delighted with that trophy haul! In fact just winning a single trophy! I can’t imagine even a league cup right now with our owners.. Seems like a wild dream!
 
I cant stand them, but they've actually given us a pretty good blueprint to be successful without having man city money. It will take time and it will suck, but its the only way.

There is no shortcut to success for clubs like us.

It's really that simple. And you know what? It probably won't even work because City/Newcastle will grind them down with their resources.

But they'll have a lot more fun watching their team play every week. Right now just putting trophies aside I'd settle for actually being excited to watch a Spurs team play football. So bored of this functional 'ends justify the means' rubbish where the ends happen to be the exact same thing as when we were actually exciting.
 
They're a bit fucking thick though, absolutely obsessed with net-spend. The vast salaries and bonuses they pay their players isn't relevant, they just harp on about how clubs like Brighton have out spent them ignoring the fact they sign far cheaper players and pay them a fraction as much.
At one point they were spending 100m more a year than us on wages but that doesn’t count apparently.
 
It's a forum. if anything you seem to be the one who's angry. no need to get personal. sad to see
I haven’t said anything really personal or any signs of anger. It looked like you were from your posts. But it’s good that you are happy & all ok! I know it’s a forum. You can spend all week defending enic if you so wish. I just don’t think there worth all that time & effort to defend. But if you do, that’s your call.
Anyway, I think we are done with our debate! Night
 
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