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Manager Antonio Conte

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You're right Matt, time isn't always the answer. What I'm arguing here though is whether he deserves the time and patience. My personal opinion is that he does, as he's proven in a variety of leagues that he deserves his reputation as an elite manager. So if the goons can do it for an unproven "cone boy," shouldn't we be doing that for one of the World's best?

I've argued for a while that many in our squad weren't up to the level we all desire, from when Poch left, through Mourinho, then Nuno and now Conte.

The players aren't regressing, they're reverting back to their level, Conte elevated them last season, but they don't really have the ability to maintain that level, not to compete at the very top end anyway.

So time, patience and money is necessary.

As for the goons, like I said, I'm not convinced they will implode, something feels different this season, but I'll joyously eat a shitload of humble pie if I prove to be wrong.

Where their "fickle fans" are concerned though, where is the difference with the reaction from some in here at the first sign of adversity?
Conte deserves time at Spurs because I have absolutely no doubt he's the best we're getting for some time.
He certainly hasn't given up and started playing for the sack. He's still competing and he's doing it with a handicapped squad.
 
It's weird with Conte but I think he genuinekt likes the club I really do but..

He ain't going to stay unless he gets a level of backing. He had it in summer and I think he wants a bit more.

Should that happen in January he will sign a new contract as will Kane. At least I think so.

The thing is to get the players we need to be in the last 16 of the CL and probably in the carrot cake cup and I would say in the top 5.

I an happy to he held to all that as an unknowing assessment/guesstimate
 
Conte getting us top four last season was a miracle with a huge slice of luck from Woolwich bottling it.

There is no doubt that we are in a much better place than we were when he took over.

That said, it's fair by now to expect us to be playing better football and acting more like one of the best teams in the league on a more regular basis.

No doubt Conte is still hamstrung by a sizable chunk of average to poor players clogging up the squad but he is not infallible. He has shown stubbornness with both his system, approach to rotation and favouritism.

I think we just have to wait out this choppy period and once the duds and the average old guard are faded out we can be a top team under Conte.
 
Yeah, definitely a bit wild. A year or two under Pep would polish him up.

Agree on Foyth too, he had flaws but at least he could play, unlike that donkey Sanchez. He just needed someone to tell to release the ball quicker.

The players we keep and the ones we send out has been fucked for a long time too. We've repeatedly had the "x is talented but washed/lazy, so he gets sold, y is not talented but is dependable so he stays", trope play out.
Foyth is better than donkey royal as well and his played well in Spain winning a trophy as well. We let messi mk2 go as well who’ll be back tmrw. That’s on conte though tbh.
 
Skipp doesn't get a sniff at any elite club, as per my comment.

Oh come on...... Are you indirectly suggesting that only "elite" players are good enough for Spurs squad?

Is every player at Utd. elite?
Is every player at Arse elite?
Is every player at Liverpool elite?
Is every player at Chelsea elite?
Even City.... Is Ake "elite"? ...Phillips? Gomez? Palmer? Alvarez?

Skipp is absolutely good enough for our squad.... And he's still growing.
 
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Oh come on...... Are you indirectly suggesting that only "elite" players are good enough for Spurs squad?

Is every player at Utd. elite?
Is every player at Arse elite?
Is every player at Liverpool elite?
Is every player at Chelsea elite?
Even City.... Is Ake "elite"? ...Phillips? Gomez? Palmer? Alvarez?

Skipp is absolutely good enough for our squad.... And he's still growing.
Exactly right. People seem to think we need 14 world class players to win. Nobody has a squad like that.
 
And I want Newcastle hung out to fucking dry over that "performance" yesterday. It was the epitome of terrible, truly awful football.
We may sit deep to wait for space to attack. Those wanks just dived and dived and dived and dived, time wasted over and over and over. It's exactly the same turgid shit Pulis, Mowberry, Hughes, Hodgson, Bruce, Moyes etc etc play.

If Spurs ever spent a whole match doing that I'd take a month off work and stand outside the managers house every day with a sign until he got sacked or I got banged up.
Richarli SF on doesn’t fI’ve then?
 
Which is the problem. A financially doped club with a bottomless pot of cash has changed other fans perspective of their clubs into an unrealistic one. They play by a different set of rules and play the game on cheat mode.
Yep,

We've got 3 now City, Chavs and Newcastle (Newcastle aren't there yet, but they will be)
And some people are silly enough to use the first two winning trophies as a club to beat us with.

When you're on cheat mode it's easy to win.
 
If only hey...



I believe the thing that's stopping us from playing this kind of ball is the quality in our team, consistently anyway.
 
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