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Management Levy / €NIC. In or Out

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Levy / ENIC. In or Out

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Yes but the point is if you want ENIC out you need a Multi-billionaire to buy us. In the 90s it was easier for some local self made millionaire to buy a club and inject funds. These days those multi-millionaires will bankrupt themselves just buying a couple of years of Premium Memberships.

The number of available buyers is a small pool, and they need to be willing to buy us in the first place. Shouting "ENIC out" does nothing. It's not like Levy can walk up and down the High Road asking in the local boozers if anyone wants a second hand football club. And that's why I can't spend that much energy being all worked up on "ENIC out".
And fans moaning about which players start or which formation were gonna use isn’t going to change what Conte does. What’s the point in anything on this forum then
 
It’s interesting to note the difference in people’s perception of the broader football climate (you can’t view Tottenham Hotspur in isolation).

For me, trying to build the club in “the right way” was a source of pride. Our success comes from patiently building over the long term from our own good decision making. Mirrors what Conte is saying really.

We can’t control what other clubs are doing and it is frustrating when Chelsea, Man City and now Newcastle come in and change the reality in an unfair way. Without them we’d have won a lot more under ENIC.

But I don’t really see us as having a choice. Not one I want anyway. I don’t want a buccaneering guy from the states or a dirty sports washer. I’d trade 10 league titles in for nothing if that’s the price. I’m happy with our homegrown and imperfect Levy. (Which is not the same as thinking he’s beyond reproach - he’s not).

This is about who we are and how we see ourself.
Lifetime award for services to comedy and performing arts goes to this fella 👍🏆🏅
 
Entitled to your opinion. And I can see you feel this way if all your Spurs mates want ENIC Out. mine are a mix, but mainly couldn’t care less who owns us.

And I don’t go near Twitter: but wouldn’t base anything on the noise of the disaffected few. The unhappy shout so much louder and longer than the happy, so I’d expect Twitter and any other online platform to be angry.

And it’s far from conclusive. Most of us twist and turn depending on the last result or signing. Same will happen again if we start to perform or make a decent signing.
So basically any way in which fans are voicing their opinion you’re discrediting? You’re saying this forum isnt reflective, Twitter isn’t reflective. What is reflective of what most spurs fans think then? There were loud and clear levy out chants at our last home game and expect to hear more away at palace tonight. Do they count or is that jus the loud voice of the few again
 
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So basically any way in which fans are voicing their opinion you’re discrediting? You’re saying this forum is reflective, Twitter isn’t reflective. What is reflective of what most spurs fans think then? There were loud and clear levy out chants at our last home game and expect to hear more away at palace tonight. Do they count or is that jus the loud voice of the few again

There were clear chants. They lasted two minutes though until they got bored.
 
Tell you what, guys. Even I'm surprised at the magnitude of the result. I expected may be 60/40 but 85 / 15! Wow!! I mean WOW!!!

Maybe my surprise is fuelled by the reality that the Levy / ENIC apologists and supporters just have much louder voices in backing their cause than the rest of us.

I mean, the 15% who want more of the same seem to have contributed to over 50% of the posts in the entire thread.!

The results clearly have them rattled
 
Post of the year mate, take a bow.

Morgan Freeman Applause GIF by The Academy Awards

I will take post of the hour.

As everyone else was asleep.
 
If you think that’s funny, you should listen to what fans of 90% of the football pyramid have to say. Including many about us and our position of privilege.

Most of those fans would laugh in your face & tell you to fucking do one if you asked them to pay the ticket prices Spurs fans do.

They'd then tell you to double fuck off if the chairman said it was a "privilege" to go and watch your team play for said price.

People can accept shit football. They can't accept shit football, no trophies, sky-high ticket prices & feeling like they're just a cash cow.
 
Genuine question for everybody ;

Does anyone actually know what the club is worth ?

Is it really overpriced ?
Is it underpriced ?

I , honestly, have absolutely no idea.
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I meant more overpriced in terms of the market for people wanting to buy football clubs. Usually the aim is buy at a low price ala Liverpool/Newcastle/City etc and then invest money to boost their revenue.

I have no idea exactly how much, but we'd cost a lot. To the point where we'd put off buyers as we're not attractive for that model.
 
Most of those fans would laugh in your face & tell you to fucking do one if you asked them to pay the ticket prices Spurs fans do.

They'd then tell you to double fuck off if the chairman said it was a "privilege" to go and watch your team play for said price.

People can accept shit football. They can't accept shit football, no trophies, sky-high ticket prices & feeling like they're just a cash cow.
Did you read my post or are you just venting?
 
Did you read my post or are you just venting?

Yeah I did.

Spurs fans aren't in a 'privileged position' at all. We're charged as much as elite clubs to watch some of the worst football in the top English tiers (yes, I've watched league 1 teams who are more entertaining than we are) & win nothing.

Lots of lower league fans wouldn't swap because they get a much cheaper day out, feel more important to their club & the football is messy but fun.
 
I meant more overpriced in terms of the market for people wanting to buy football clubs. Usually the aim is buy at a low price ala Liverpool/Newcastle/City etc and then invest money to boost their revenue.

I have no idea exactly how much, but we'd cost a lot. To the point where we'd put off buyers as we're not attractive for that model.
I think that's always been the case though.

Hence Abramovich buying Chelsea and not us.
Same with Newcastle.
Same with City.

Why would anybody pay 3 billion for a club and spend a further billion on players when you can buy an Everton (or similar) for a fraction of the price.

Point is that all takeovers by oil people have always been of yo yo clubs, or clubs struggling at the bottom of the table.
 
I think that's always been the case though.

Hence Abramovich buying Chelsea and not us.
Same with Newcastle.
Same with City.

Why would anybody pay 3 billion for a club and spend a further billion on players when you can buy an Everton (or similar) for a fraction of the price.

Point is that all takeovers by oil people have always been of yo yo clubs, or clubs struggling at the bottom of the table.

I do also think it's just rare for successful, stable clubs to be on the market. I mean there were reports FSG might sell up but that's gone quiet.

Chelsea were pretty expensive for Boehly, but significantly cheaper than we'd be. I do think buyers would be out there but the list of those interested would probably be significantly shorter.
 
I think that's always been the case though.

Hence Abramovich buying Chelsea and not us.
Same with Newcastle.
Same with City.

Why would anybody pay 3 billion for a club and spend a further billion on players when you can buy an Everton (or similar) for a fraction of the price.

Point is that all takeovers by oil people have always been of yo yo clubs, or clubs struggling at the bottom of the table.
Anyone thinking about buying Spurs would have to continue with the NFL project. That surely rules out oil money and limits us to US investors.
 
If you think that’s funny, you should listen to what fans of 90% of the football pyramid have to say. Including many about us and our position of privilege.
I'm not sure that, given our prices that we are "privileged" , with the poor return we receive.
The club has very little ambition to provide a successful football team, unless you can provide anything to the contrary.
I'm sick to death of them failing to move this club on, all we get is excuses when another club comes into money.
Levy should be honest about what they want for the club, but because he can't do that we are left with dissatisfied and fractious fanbase whose numbers are growing by the day.
 
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