Yeah, and that is the question to be fair.
Is it too much, or is it a correct ish price ?
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Management Levy / €NIC. In or Out
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Is it too much, or is it a correct ish price ?
Todd Boehly ?
The same Todd Boehly who's backed by Saudi money ?
That Todd Boehly ?
That's interesting.
Is there any truth in the rumours that Enic are looking for £3bn ?
Do you know what mate, I find boring the hyberbole defending these cunts.
Saying ENIC have taken us as far as they can but they're not actually killing the club isn't hyperbole. But sure, other than that you're bang on "mate".
I don't disagree there Raum, but any club in our position is only ever going to be bought by the super rich. As alluded to earlier, the potential buyout of Liverpool has gone quiet, but that doesn't mean that there aren't quite a few out there who may be interested in both, Chelsea had a number of bidders, if I remember correctly.
I think a large part of the interest is due to the exposure of the clubs. The likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Utd et al have enormous exposure worldwide, with huge fanbases. This likely influences any decision as any buyer would be looking at the revenue they'd realise over an extended period of time.
And this is what really worries me if ENIC were to sell. ENIC will realise their profits at the point of sale, they haven't leveraged the club in the way the Glazers did, and they haven't taken hundreds of millions out in dividends like the Glazers did, they've put it all back into the club to grow it. You'd have to be pretty naive to think that we'd get an altruistic new owner who'd do the same, as the same type of growth potential just isn't there. It's far more likely that they'd milk the club. They won't be fans, just investors looking for a profit, and our profits now are fairly large as it is.
The consensus of opinion is that the club requires change, and I can get on board with that, but I'd much rather that change came from ENIC than from a new owner who is far more likely to be a Glazer than an Abramovic.
Which side of the fence Boehly falls on we'll have to wait and see, but you'd have to be seriously deluded to believe he doesn't have a plan that'll net him profit on his investment. We've all seen that Chelsea are a money pit, and the longer he stays there, the more it will cost him, so how does he get that money back? It won't be from a sale as no one was prepared to pay what he paid, so why would they then shell out North of £7Bn?
Whereas we are currently a money printing enterprise, despite having less success than them, and we're less than a third of the price.
No idea.
Much as with transfers, I treat rumours as rumours.
Whether they want £3Bn or not though, that's what negotiations are for. They might get something like £2.5Bn, but that still going to be a third of the layout for Chelsea, if you factor in any infrastructure development that they'd need.
Liverpool fans and Woolwich fans being a bit militant help push those clubs to be a bit more ambitious on the pitch. The more passive we are the more chance of another Nuno getting thrown at us. Don’t have to change the ownership always to force some change. Being passive will not help us.
We need to be hard to govern, but Spurs fans are passive mostly by nature compared to many other clubs. We almost feel embarrassed if there is a protest.
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True I go to Dagenham and Redbridge or did a lot growing up. It was great fun, proper close to the pitch, intense and very cheap. My expectations where we got promoted then relegated then mid table. Completely different situation. I do recommend non league.
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Hercules
There is a lot of stuff which is very concerning I cannot reveal here, which nobody can dispute. We now need to make a stand.
This is not something I am doing because of a few knee jerks. I don’t do Twitter, and never will. But those of you who does, you need to start making it count. Bombard the club with emails. It is not about Conte. This is where many are totally misguided.
I have been sharing behind the scenes for a long while. And they can tell you I have never been wrong on this. The club is in a total mess. One person is causing this. And if you believe Poch or another manager is the answer, you are in for a rude awakening.
Let us unite as fans to drive Mr Daniel Levy out of our club.
Hercules
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There is a lot of stuff which is very concerning I cannot reveal here, which nobody can dispute. We now need to make a stand.
This is not something I am doing because of a few knee jerks. I don’t do Twitter, and never will. But those of you who does, you need to start making it count. Bombard the club with emails. It is not about Conte. This is where many are totally misguided.
I have been sharing behind the scenes for a long while. And they can tell you I have never been wrong on this. The club is in a total mess. One person is causing this. And if you believe Poch or another manager is the answer, you are in for a rude awakening.
Let us unite as fans to drive Mr Daniel Levy out of our club.
That's the rub of it.
That's why I tend to laugh at these "ENIC outers" on here. They'll scream for change, but they'll only do it on an internet forum, looking to start fights with anyone who doesn't share their opinion, but shit scared to do anything constructive to effect that change. They'd rather claim to have "won an argument."
It's like watching the People's Front of Judea in a planning session.
Do you work for ENIC?
My dude, we pay the highest ticket prices in the league, we are among the wealthiest clubs in Europe. If you remember we were in the elite mix of the super league clubs. We are not some plucky little underdog who can be content because uncle Dan sold us a champions league qualification dream for the past few seasons.
This clubs profile, fanbase and wealth demands silverware. It demands better than one trophy in ENIC s tenure.
top settling for mediocrity and dare to dream a little bigger. Nobody gives a fuck about regular CL qualification it's a small time mentality.
Last I checked our motto isn't "champions league qualification is our everything"
I haven't even seen the guys outside WHL with the "To Dare is Too Dear" banner for months. There's always the Levy Out undercurrent, but it remains an undercurrent and nothing more. Of course 85% are ENIC out on an internet poll so job done, or something.
That's because our fanbase is totally apathetic having been denied glory so long we now believe we are the small time club that fans of other clubs love to tell us.
Same reason our fanbase pays the highest ticket prices to get shit on every week.
Some people enjoy degradation.
His info was so so good , always first , always right , I always thought he was Daniel Levy . Just goes to show
Another great post,
Tomo
Who could forget the silly #BackNuno nonsense where many of us were hounded and berated for not supporting that disgraceful appointment and comedy show leading up to it.
Had we all followed their example, he'd probably still be our manager
Another great post,
Who could forget the silly #BackNuno nonsense where many of us were hounded and berated for not supporting that disgraceful appointment and comedy show leading up to it.
Had we all followed their example, he'd probably still be our manager
Maybe it's generational. I suppose most ST holders are now from the 90s era where we were used to so much worse than this. Midtable, Europe never, odd relegation scrap. To this generation, what we have now is comparatively paradise.
The older ones who were more used to glory have probably long since stopped renewing\been priced out\passed away and the younger ones who are more used to our Europe most seasons aren't yet financially sound enough for a ST at £900 a year.
I don't know. I'm just posting shit so I don't have to do any work.