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Belgrano said:
We were good defensively second half of last season, so yes, it's not just a case of needing better centre backs.

I think Dier is the key. He sets the tone for the defence. When he's passive and off form, we struggle. So it was encouraging that he had a good game against Fulham. He was a bit more aggressive, dealt with Mitrovic well, and we looked a lot more solid.
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House of cards situation. One falls, they al fall.
 
The Dealer said:
Interesting to compare Tanganga with Romero. Romero can be a bit undisciplined in defence. I'm not sure how in tune he is with Dier. Tanganga though is perhaps more inclined to follow Diers lead.
Against Preston Tanganga showed his more attacking side, probably because he wasn't under much pressure. There are similarities between Tanganga and Romero. Both mobile, tough in the tackle, a bit rash , both pass quickly and firmly sometimes hospital passes !! I would suggest Tanganga might be better in the air.
This comparison might be down to me not rating Romero as highly as some and Tanganga the opposite, I rate him.
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Sorry, but Romero and Tanganga are just not comparable. Romero is several levels better technically. Tanganga really has no idea what to do with the ball.
 
KaneIsAble said:
Sorry, but Romero and Tanganga are just not comparable. Romero is several levels better technically. Tanganga really has no idea what to do with the ball.
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That's the obvious perception. Let's watch them both ( if Tanganga gets any time) and look at their strengths and weaknesses.
I would say Tanganga is better in the air or not much in it. That's one area to compare. Marking wise Romero has been known to lose his man. Tanganga is pretty attritional and focused.
It would be great if they both came good.
 
The Dealer said:
I think he went through a tough time with injuries maybe?
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I can't recall if his injuries were why his performances dropped off, or whether it was just himself not being able to maintain a good standard. Conte doesn't seem that interested in him though, the Preston match is the only time I can remember Conte choosing him to play. i haven't kept track of his injuries though.

His name Tanganga reminds me of a sort of All Blacks rugby player's name. I wonder what his heritage is?
 
McCOYS said:
I can't recall if his injuries were why his performances dropped off, or whether it was just himself not being able to maintain a good standard. Conte doesn't seem that interested in him though, the Preston match is the only time I can remember Conte choosing him to play. i haven't kept track of his injuries though.

His name Tanganga reminds me of a sort of All Blacks rugby player's name. I wonder what his heritage is?
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He’s from Hackney.
 
McCOYS said:
I recall Tanganga have a couple of good games as RB maybe under Jose (not sure) but he just faded away from those couple of good performances and couldn't maintain a high standard.
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He got his debut against Liverpool under Mou, where he impressed, then quickly got a start against City where he completely shut out Grealish and Sterling. He was very physical and nearly impossible to beat 1v1, but he was overly physical and refs stopped letting him get away with it after that.

While he didn't have a trampoline first touch or bozo moments like Sanchez, he had no idea what to do with the ball.

At some point he seemed to lose his head, and started playing like a complete clown, culminating in the shit show against Chelsea under Conte.
 
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Sean said:
The way we play it's mostly is a 5 at the back with how deep he sets up the team
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Agree, debating back 3 vs 4 is mindless really. You can have a defensive back 4 (like Jose), or an attacking back 4 (like Poch largely/Klopp). You can have a defensive back 5, or an attacking back 5…. Starting formation is secondary, it’s how and where the players are told to play
 
I remember when practically every goal we conceded when Tanganga was in the starting eleven in his debut season was down to him in some way. And he was praised weekly.

Then again, he's a home grown product. We love to praise them for completing a pass nowadays.
 
There's 4 phases of Tanganga

Has a bad game.
Gets benched
Has a good game.
Get's injured.

Rinse.
Repeat.

We need a squad of players who can be called upon whenever needed. The injury liabilities are the ones we probably need out sooner rather than later.
 
The Dealer said:
That's the obvious perception. Let's watch them both ( if Tanganga gets any time) and look at their strengths and weaknesses.
I would say Tanganga is better in the air or not much in it. That's one area to compare. Marking wise Romero has been known to lose his man. Tanganga is pretty attritional and focused.
It would be great if they both came good.
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Sometimes the obvious perception is the reality. Tanganga was great for a couple of games, given a defensive role. He hasn't been focused and error free for a long time.

Jenny Talia said:
He’s from Hackney.
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According to Wikipedia, he's of Congolese descent, so central Africa, nothing to do with the all blacks or the pacific islands.
 
KaneIsAble said:
Sometimes the obvious perception is the reality. Tanganga was great for a couple of games, given a defensive role. He hasn't been focused and error free for a long time.


According to Wikipedia, he's of Congolese descent, so central Africa, nothing to do with the all blacks or the pacific islands.
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I will be watching Romero closely. I can already attribute goals he could have done better for. Recently he turned his back on a shot and watched it whistle past him and Lloris rather than face it up and take it in the balls if need be. He lost Ronaldo and allowed him to head home. He's sometimes out of position and trots back. He's rash in tackles and gives away free kicks needlessly.
I don't rate Romero as highly as some but see something in Tanganga .
 
The Dealer said:
I will be watching Romero closely. I can already attribute goals he could have done better for. Recently he turned his back on a shot and watched it whistle past him and Lloris rather than face it up and take it in the balls if need be. He lost Ronaldo and allowed him to head home. He's sometimes out of position and trots back. He's rash in tackles and gives away free kicks needlessly.
I don't rate Romero as highly as some but see something in Tanganga .
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So one flawed guy has 'it' but one doesn't?

........What is it you think that Japh has that Romero doesn't?

The one thing i know Romero has that Japh doesn't is a track record that consists of a lot more than merely the occasional, yet rare, good game.
 
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