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Certainly the most expensive in the PL

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That data is for the most expensive ticket only. It’s not at all surprising that we have the most expensive most expensive ticket because we will have the best luxury facilities in the world.

The most expensive cheapest ticket is at Woolwich in your own data.
 
That data is for the most expensive ticket only. It’s not at all surprising that we have the most expensive most expensive ticket because we will have the best luxury facilities in the world.

The most expensive cheapest ticket is at Woolwich in your own data.
I know what the data is, I posted it.
I just KNEW you'd find a way of rationalising it 😂. The fact is Tottenham sell the most expensive ticket, which was the claim.

A figure for average ST would be interesting though.
 
The Levybots continue to spin spin spin everything!

Seriously, what are they fucking on about?

Our club is a shambles and this all stems from those at the top, especially Mr Levy himself.

I'm just embarrassed to be a Spurs fan nowadays and can't see anything changing until we get new owners. Levy and ENIC, just the like Tory party, are stale and have run out of ideas.

Time's up!


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Go on, quote the posts/posters you're taking umbrage with, I dare you ;)
 
Not as the owner, as the chairman, as the CEO.

Spurs have to stop having their helpless managers under siege from the press be the only voice of the club, it's been a toxic dynamic for years now.

A DoF could potentially play that role (Paratici didn't seem to want to, and was very limited in English), someone like Scott Munn could play that role.

But preseason, the end of the transfer window, end of the season, a couple key points, not every day, the CLUB, not the manager should step up to the mic and deliver its message.

I'm sat here in Chicago and that would mean a lot to me.

It's the bottomless, enthusiastic cynicism that just galls me. A note of acknowledgment that the prices asked from fans haven't been reflected in what has been put on the field would cut through quite a bit.



It's not an exact science because the pricing varies. Woolwich are close as well.

And per a comment above, based on PSG's insane matchday income and smaller capacity they look likely to be higher as well, though the PL in general has the highest ticket prices in the world.

Spurs have much higher prices than United, City, Chelsea or Liverpool and spend much less on players, despite similar and sometimes higher revenues than the latter two.
Be it the owner, chairman or CEO, it just doesn’t really happen. Rarely do you see anyone but the manager fronting up. One of Conte’s complaints I seem to recall. I don’t know anyone that heads up a business (and we are a business as well as a football club) that is always giving interviews. Maybe a mad bastard like Elon Musk, but nobody else.

And why should they? We know that whatever is said will be twisted even by our own supporters. It’s a thankless task to give interviews.

On the ticket prices, no huge surprise we are higher than the Manc and Scouse clubs as London is fucking expensive. Fulham are putting their highest season ticket up to over £3k next season. Always surprises me that we are more expensive than Chelsea. Don’t think we will be in a year or two.
 
Not as the owner, as the chairman, as the CEO.

Spurs have to stop having their helpless managers under siege from the press be the only voice of the club, it's been a toxic dynamic for years now.

A DoF could potentially play that role (Paratici didn't seem to want to, and was very limited in English), someone like Scott Munn could play that role.

But preseason, the end of the transfer window, end of the season, a couple key points, not every day, the CLUB, not the manager should step up to the mic and deliver its message.

I'm sat here in Chicago and that would mean a lot to me.

It's the bottomless, enthusiastic cynicism that just galls me. A note of acknowledgment that the prices asked from fans haven't been reflected in what has been put on the field would cut through quite a bit.



It's not an exact science because the pricing varies. Woolwich are close as well.

And per a comment above, based on PSG's insane matchday income and smaller capacity they look likely to be higher as well, though the PL in general has the highest ticket prices in the world.

Spurs have much higher prices than United, City, Chelsea or Liverpool and spend much less on players, despite similar and sometimes higher revenues than the latter two.
I don’t have an athletic subscription so I can’t read your link.

Are you saying that we are in
A) the league with the highest ticket prices in the world
B) in the city with the highest (or joint highest) cost of living
C) in the newest, best football stadium in the world

???

Because those sound like 3 very important factors in setting ticket prices.

Nottingham Forest and Fulham have higher season ticket prices than Bayern Munich.

This post explains why we have higher season ticket prices than the 4 clubs you name but also Spurs have had lower revenue than Liverpool, Chelsea, and the Manchester clubs every year for the past decade.
 
Matt Law is such a prick. Bet he loved using Levy here to have continued digs at the club. Completely unnecessary.


Daniel Levy laughed momentarily when he was asked by an audience member at the Cambridge Union "What do you think of Tottenham?" before firing back: “It’s the greatest club in the world.”

The first part of Levy’s response is currently more accurate than the second because, right now, Tottenham Hotspur, the supposed “greatest club in the world”, are a laughing stock of his making.

The resignation of Fabio Paratici means Tottenham are now “the greatest club in the world” with no permanent head coach, no managing director of football and an acting head coach who many supporters would like to see sacked.

It was apparently on the advice of Paratici, in what would have been one his last acts as a Spurs employee, that Levy agreed to retain and promote Antonio Conte’s trusted lieutenant Cristian Stellini into the hot seat for the Premier League run-in.

Now Paratici has gone and it would not be a huge surprise if Stellini and the rest of Conte’s old staff, who are probably wondering why they are still at “the greatest club in the world”, followed him before the end of the season.

Last week’s defeat at home to Bournemouth left those with knowledge of Tottenham’s inner workings speculating whether or not Stellini himself could be sacked if the team lose to Newcastle United on Sunday.

Another defeat for “the greatest club in the world” will leave Spurs six points behind Newcastle, having played a game more, and still trailing Manchester United, who will have two games in hand and a six-point cushion.

Stellini has confirmed himself to be Conte-lite, which is no bad thing and completely understandable but is not what the Tottenham fans, or some players, wanted and it certainly has not resulted in any sort of bounce. Some even rate his promotion as Levy’s worst-ever decision, but there is plenty of competition in that field.

Should Levy travel to St James’ Park on Sunday, then he will be reacquainted with a former employee, Darren Eales, who once convinced him to sing Crocodile Rock by Elton John at a Karaoke evening in Moscow.

Eales has established himself as one of the most highly-respected chief executives in football, firstly at Atlanta and now Newcastle, since leaving “the greatest club in the world” and Paratici can at least console himself that, once his ban is served, exiting Tottenham has not exactly proved to be a career killer.

On the same weekend that Newcastle, where Eales works, can put a huge dent in Tottenham’s Champions League hopes and take a step closer to confirming their own qualification, Paul Barber, another former employee of Levy, will be watching Brighton at Wembley in the semi-finals of the FA Cup.

Barber and Brighton have become envied across the Premier League for their superb work and could yet finish above “the greatest club in the world” in the Premier League table, as well retaining the dream of finishing the season with a trophy.

Next weekend will be a big one for ex-Levy employee Damien Comolli. He is now president of Toulouse, who are looking forward to a French Cup final against Nantes.

And what of a certain Jose Mourinho, fired by Levy a few days before a League Cup final Spurs then lost and shortly before the arrival of Paratici? His Roma team on Thursday night qualified for the semi-finals of the Europa League and are fourth in Serie A, on course to qualify for next season’s Champions League.

Over the past 20 years, Levy has hired 10 permanent coaches, who, between them, have won 61 trophies before and after managing Spurs. Between them all in that time, they have won one trophy at “the greatest club in the world.”

With Scott Munn not due to start work as Tottenham’s chief football officer until July 1, Levy will lead the search for his 11th permanent head coach himself. The Premier League’s longest-serving chairman remains the one constant at the club he still tells himself is the “greatest in the world” while everybody else, just as the Cambridge Union audience did, laughs along.
Likely a prick, but he's spitting facts here.
 
Be it the owner, chairman or CEO, it just doesn’t really happen. Rarely do you see anyone but the manager fronting up. One of Conte’s complaints I seem to recall. I don’t know anyone that heads up a business (and we are a business as well as a football club) that is always giving interviews. Maybe a mad bastard like Elon Musk, but nobody else.
Levy admires and models his future vision for European football on US pro sports leagues, no? People above the coaches speak regularly with the media in the US. It varies but it's never just the head coach as the face of the team.

And anyway, figures like Edu and Josh Kroenke at Woolwich, Khaldoon al-Mubarak at City, Billy Hogan at Liverpool are much more visible than any non-managerial figure at Spurs.

Spurs are a uniquely secretive enterprise in English football. That should change.
 
Are you saying that we are in
A) the league with the highest ticket prices in the world
B) in the city with the highest (or joint highest) cost of living
C) in the newest, best football stadium in the world

???

Because those sound like 3 very important factors in setting ticket prices.
They also ought to be important factors in setting transfer budgets, but at Spurs they aren't.

Top-of-market ticket prices aren't a problem by themselves.

Caution and seeking to do more with less in squad expenditure isn't a problem by itself.

The two together will not wash. Period.

We're all being mugged off, no one is even attempting to hide it.
 
They also ought to be important factors in setting transfer budgets, but at Spurs they aren't.

Top-of-market ticket prices aren't a problem by themselves.

Caution and seeking to do more with less in squad expenditure isn't a problem by itself.

The two together will not wash. Period.

We're all being mugged off, no one is even attempting to hide it.
I like a lot of your posts but I don’t think you’ve thought this through.

Since we’ve moved into our new stadium our transfer spend has been good and that has been despite covid causing stadium closures. The new stadium has led to an increase in transfer spending.

Also, it’s just wrong to isolate one part of our revenue and say that this should be key in setting transfer budgets. It’s our total revenue that matters. I’m surprised you didn’t know that Chelsea, Liverpool and the Manchester clubs have had significantly higher revenue for at least a decade and that is why they spend more.
 
Since we’ve moved into our new stadium our transfer spend has been good and that has been despite covid causing stadium closures. The new stadium has led to an increase in transfer spending.
True, but that has emerged from a 5 year period of net negative transfer spend and the longest period without a purchase in Premier League history.

And our wages to turnover ratio remains bottom of the division and bottom among major clubs in Europe. Blending in transfer fee amortization wouldn't meaningfully change that either.

We've gone from underinvestment of club resources at the scale of White Hart Lane to underinvestment of club resources at the scale of Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The song remains the same.

I’m surprised you didn’t know that Chelsea, Liverpool and the Manchester clubs have had significantly higher revenue for at least a decade and that is why they spend more.
We have higher revenue than Chelsea in the current season and barring collapse in our league position next season as well. We also might pass United in next season's accounts, which would have been unimaginable a decade ago.

The stadium makes us extremely rich!
 
Levy admires and models his future vision for European football on US pro sports leagues, no? People above the coaches speak regularly with the media in the US. It varies but it's never just the head coach as the face of the team.

And anyway, figures like Edu and Josh Kroenke at Woolwich, Khaldoon al-Mubarak at City, Billy Hogan at Liverpool are much more visible than any non-managerial figure at Spurs.

Spurs are a uniquely secretive enterprise in English football. That should change.
Don’t think I could pick any of those people out of a line up. But I maybe just watch less news about other clubs. Will bow to your superior knowledge on this one.

If someone asked me who Billy Hogan was, I’d have thought he was a golfer from the fifties.
 
True, but that has emerged from a 5 year period of net negative transfer spend and the longest period without a purchase in Premier League history.

And our wages to turnover ratio remains bottom of the division and bottom among major clubs in Europe. Blending in transfer fee amortization wouldn't meaningfully change that either.

We've gone from underinvestment of club resources at the scale of White Hart Lane to underinvestment of club resources at the scale of Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The song remains the same.
We do have scope to increase our spending on wages. 360k / week more would be reasonable. I agree on that.

But 4 of the top 6 are in the bottom 5 on wages to turnover. We should be near the bottom. That will become imperative because next season premier league rules will mean it has to be at 90%. Fulham, Palace and Everton are currently above that and will need to bring wages down. The season after it will be 80% and then in just over 2 years it will be 70%. Only 6 teams are currently below that threshold - Chelsea and Woolwich are both above. Whereas most teams will need to bring their wages DOWN (or increase their turnover), we have room to increase wages. I would expect to see that happen when we can sort out our recruitment. No point spending big with shaky recruitment.

Also - why do you think we didn’t spend on transfers before the stadium opened?
 
Don’t think I could pick any of those people out of a line up. But I maybe just watch less news about other clubs. Will bow to your superior knowledge on this one.

If someone asked me who Billy Hogan was, I’d have thought he was a golfer from the fifties.
And none of them is more prominent than Paratici anyway. He’s not even being objective about our club - he’s being biased against it.

I cannot understand how so many Tottenham fans are indistinguishable from rival fans when they talk about our club.
 
Don’t think I could pick any of those people out of a line up. But I maybe just watch less news about other clubs. Will bow to your superior knowledge on this one.

If someone asked me who Billy Hogan was, I’d have thought he was a golfer from the fifties.
That's where someone like Scott Munn could be valuable.

TalkSport doesn't give a shit what Scott Munn says. But speaking to Spurs supporters in a public forum and saying "expect the managerial appointment shortly after the conclusion of the season. Gretar Steinsson is acting as DoF and expect that search to carry on for longer. We'd like to improve the depth of the squad and the overall level of pace, we feel we were lacking there and want to compete on four fronts there, blah blah blah" (I'm making all that up).

None of that is earth shattering, it's all couched in PR speak, whatever. American communications are no different.

But making everyone guess and do Kremlinology about it, or worse having managers use their public platform to pressure Levy on one matter or another is persistently toxic for the club.

And none of them is more prominent than Paratici anyway.
Paratici spoke publicly like three times in his entire Tottenham tenure, the last of which on the same day he was banned by FIFA, all on grainy Zoom calls, I think all in Italy, and took a grand total of zero questions from the press.

This is a real thing, I'm not making this up. Spurs are less transparent than peer clubs.
 
Levy admires and models his future vision for European football on US pro sports leagues, no? People above the coaches speak regularly with the media in the US. It varies but it's never just the head coach as the face of the team.

And anyway, figures like Edu and Josh Kroenke at Woolwich, Khaldoon al-Mubarak at City, Billy Hogan at Liverpool are much more visible than any non-managerial figure at Spurs.

Spurs are a uniquely secretive enterprise in English football. That should change.
There is nothing secretive about, how badly miss managed we have been.
 
Also - why do you think we didn’t spend on transfers before the stadium opened?
Honestly? My personal pet theory on Summer 2018 is that the dodgy wiring fiasco took so much of Levy's time, just his personal man-hours, that it suddenly left us unable to finalize transfer business which at Spurs had always been historically dependent on extensive levels of Levy's personal involvement.

I think that's why since then he's made much more sincere efforts to insulate himself from the day-to-day of transfer business than he ever did before. That's a positive development, no question. Just Spurs luck that we were starting to get a little bit of traction on that score and then Paratici gets blown out of the picture.

(I do also wonder if we got caught with our pants down in cash flow terms in that moment. It was such a colossally damaging blunder to the football team. Five years on we're still nowhere near clearing through that wreckage. I have enough respect for Levy to refuse to believe that was a purely intentional act.)
 
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Honestly? My personal pet theory on Summer 2018 is that the dodgy wiring fiasco took so much of Levy's time, just his personal man-hours, that it suddenly left us unable to finalize transfer business which at Spurs had always been historically dependent on extensive levels of Levy's personal involvement.

I think that's why since then he's made much more sincere efforts to insulate himself from the day-to-day of transfer business than he ever did before. That's a positive development, no question. Just Spurs luck that we were starting to get a little bit of traction on that score and then Paratici gets blown out of the picture.
What were the other members of the transfer committee doing?

On your telling, Levy was doing thé rewiring himself. Hilarious.

I think it’s much more likely that we needed to turn a profit in order to secure the best rates on the stadium and Levy decided to sacrifice spending one season in order to save tens or hundreds of millions over the longer term.

We’ve been affected less than Woolwich were in their rebuild (and got a far better stadium out of it).
 
What were the other members of the transfer committee doing?

On your telling, Levy was doing thé rewiring himself. Hilarious.
I mean the reports we have are that Levy was on-site every day and no one could believe how personally involved he was.

And obviously the dodgy wiring thing was quite the acute crisis in that moment. August 22, 2018 was when it became public.

Spurs recruitment operation was under-staffed and under-empowered, that's well known and Paratici's explicit remit was to expand and develop it into a more modern operation.

We'll compete when we qualify for the CL regularly.
We'll compete when we move into the new stadium.

We'll compete when there's a wage cap and spending limit introduced.
Levy makes no secret in the Cambridge Union interview that wage controls are what he's counting on to bring Spurs back on terms with the top of the sport.

It's possible he's right. The problem in likelihood of winning trophies terms is that it reduces the gaps behind as well.
 
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