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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Sean said:

View: https://twitter.com/simonyemane/status/1790516798120775972?t=00nT8jC84j-atawkgURtvw&s=19


He will need to address this I think in the next presser
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Hope he just fucked up and said the bit about fragile foundations without thinking it through and spent the rest of the presser backpedaling. Otherwise it's a pretty shit move to drop a soundbite and then spend half an hour saying you're not going to talk about it.

Benefit of the doubt. It was a weird situation where what supporters want and what the squad want don't align, one that's not likely to ever occur again.
 
Notabadsquad said:
Correct but the finger pointing is surely at him, his coaching team and the players. They left us in this horrendous position.

Never felt so unsettled by any match in my life. We would have forever been laughing stocks had we not lost. No hyperbole in that statement.

We beat Villa. He boasted.. We sank thereaftee like no one's business. Many of the fans stuck by him.

Gutless defeats when it mattered. None of this outcry then. The fans stuck by him.

And we get to a match which could have defined the next decade and we play like men possessed. Absolute crock of sh!t.

Play like yesterday every fcuking game then moan. Adapt to each match and then moan. Show that commitment every game then moan.

The bloke needs to retract part of what he said and say he was talking to the emotion.

Jamie Carragher and other pundits who get local rivalry said it and Poatecogkou still prattled on.

Weird. So fcuking weird.

Let's see when we concede first against Sheffield United.
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Have we conceded the first goal in ganes more than last season?
 
Maureen said:
It’s such a pathetic thing to say anyway. Why not aim for 4 th regardless of where we are in terms of the project.its basically giving him a free pass. Only thing is we haven’t got 4th abd we haven’t grown as a team infact we have regressed.
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Why send the message to the players that 4th is the goal, as opposed to finishing as high as we possibly can? At the time we were around about 4th/5th anyhow, plus had injured players still to return. We'd already been top of the league for a quarter of the season, so why just aim for 4th?

It obviously didn't work out and absolutely he/we will need to be better next season, but given the situation at the time, what he was saying was right. And he wasn't saying he didn't want to finish 4th, he was saying that he wanted to aim higher. That's an important distinction.
 
Cranston said:
That would make sense.
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Most aggravating of all to Ange Postecoglou was the sense that a few club staff members, many of whom are #Spurs fans, had been relaxed about the possibility of losing vs Manchester City, because of the title race context. Whilst the majority of club staff had been focusing on their work as normal, the prospect of losing to City had been a theme of jokes among a minority of the staff for the past week. When one member of the support staff joked to Postecoglou that he should play a youth team against City, the manager was furious.

Postecoglou’s mood had deteriorated in recent weeks given the bad results, but this dynamic lit the fuse in him. The whole notion of being happy to lose a game had shocked him.

@JackPittBrooke
 
Someone made an interesting observation about Ange and why he tried to win this City match specifically:

As I know this opinion could receive a bit of backlash and be quite divisive again, I think it's only fair I list my reasons:

1. Ange greatly respects Pep from his time working in the City group and hails him as one of the best managers in the world, to the point that he has 100% adopted some of his tactics into his own.

2. Ange constantly talked in the build up to the game about "testing ourselves against the best in the world" in this Man City team. Ange is a born winner, and would love nothing better than beating who he perceives as the best in the world. In my opinion this is to the point that deep down Ange would've rather won this game over all our London derbies, as he views City as a bigger scalp than them.

3. This game of all games is where he finally decides to spring this new tactic from nowhere which was the first time all season in my opinion that we set up to counter the opposition rather than play our own game (By flooding the midfield with players and out-numbering City's box midfield).

My personal opinion is that Ange had this fixture targeted in his head all year as the perfect opportunity to test his wits against Pep and I think above all other fixtures Ange would have loved to have won this one going up against the best in the world.

This is partially in my opinion why the situation of this match drew so much furore from him in comparison to other bad results. He felt let down by the fans not driving on the team in what he perceived in his opinion to be his biggest match this season, but that opinion on the games importance obviously wasn't held by many of our own fans which led to friction.

T.L.D.R: Ange seen this as his biggest game this season going head to head with Pep. The lack of general fan support followed by the fan in the crowd calling him out for this preference led to touching a nerve, which resulted in Ange's outburst.

P.S. Still love Ange and am behind him 110%, now more than ever even and despite the fan potentially being right imo, that doesn't mean he has the right to repeatedly should it at Ange.
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John Thomas said:
What a pathetic over reaction lol :roflmao:

Honestly mate, your trolling is become so blatant. Take a day or two off, get some fresh air and enjoy the sunshine

Here. A reminder.

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Yeah man. Legacy fans innit. Propa fans.

Go to the game, sit behind manager and team, act like a twat cos I pay my money and I can do what the fuck I want.

#myclub #realfan
 
Shadydan said:
Someone made an interesting observation about Ange and why he tried to win this City match specifically:
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An interesting idea.

Were it actually true, he’s either a fool or a narcissist.

I want to see him supported this Summer and I hope we fly next season. But I’m not having this ‘born winner’ bollocks about Ange. We’ve absolutely shat the bed when it mattered.

He needs to worry about what he can control, not what he can’t.
 
Maureen said:
All good but where do you the confidence to say we will be fighting for the title? The guy could hardly manage a game every two weeks!
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First season in the Premier League, lost Harry Kane, improved upon last season, best start for a new manager in the league's history, played a significant amount of time with zero CBs, most points gained after falling behind in the league, more points gained in his first season than both Klopp and Arteta, another transfer window to bring in players better suited to his system, his teams have been better in his second seasons literally every job he's had, he's wants to be here and is desperate for the club to be successful, etc etc.

There have been disappointments and concerns the second half of the season for sure, and the cups were a let down, but let's not get our tits in too much of a twist, there are positives to build on.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
The people dismissing the importance of us not taking points off City must live under a rock.

Even if you don't live in London and don't have links to any real life gooners, the media wank fest over the next few weeks would have been sickening. Images of open top bus parades and then a whole summer having to listen to what a special team they are. Followed by a whole season of them as defending champions. Technically this could still happen and that would be a whole year of pain to endure.

If WE had been the ones to hand it to them it would have been decades of pain. Someone mentioned it earlier but they would immortalise Son as their hero and sing songs about him had he stuck that in. It would have been horrible.

And what gets me most is that there is no chance in hell that Woolwich would have done the same if roles reversed. They would have rolled over and had their bellies tickled. We experienced this ourselves in the Leicester season but people are quick to forget!

If you wanted us to win that game, you're not actually Spurs sorry. You might think you are but you've outed yourself. A few on here have been exposed.
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Imagine waking up 30 years from now having still won nothing, but remembering with misty eyes that one year that you lost a match to (probably) prevent Woolwich from winning the league.

Fucking yes, GET IN!

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