Still think at this stage unless it is looking extreme, and we are still in the cups, Levy won't pull the trigger.
If we are sitting 8th-10th and still in the cups Ange won't be sacked. So 9 points from the next 15 is probably fine.
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If we are sitting 8th-10th and still in the cups Ange won't be sacked. So 9 points from the next 15 is probably fine.
Nuno and Poch were both sacked in the November break, with us still in cup competitions. Don't be so sure.
When the crowd start cranking up the noise - specifically to Levy - he will act. He's not oblivious to what's happening and he'll certainly have the back block of 28 games from last season in his mind. I wonder if that's why Ange wasn't "fully supported" this summer.
9 points probably buys Ange more time for sure, but if it's 6 or less he will go.
Another manager might have brought Bergvall on. And another manager might not have wanted to keep Werner on after the summer on £150k a week - that was Ange’s choice.
And Ange wanted Johnson.
And Wilson , Ange said he wanted since the start of the summer.
Now we know he isn’t able to feed from the top table in the transfer market (which he would have known before joining us) but these players had his strong blessing - he’s made that very clear.
Not so much optimistic as that, realistically, it would be very difficult to fall out of the top six with this much talent.
I actually worded my post wrong. I meant I don't think he'll survive all 5 of those league games.
If we have a horror show and lose 3 nil to West Ham, much like how AVB did in 2013, he's done. And I can see it. Not because I rate them at all, but because by then, the players will have had enough.
I said this would happen before we played City and Woolwich towards the end of last season. It's like a world class boxer coming up against a prat who swings a lot. Keep swerving. Keep blocking. Keep ducking. Wait for them to lower the guard and bam - lights out. This whole thing of us outplaying teams is unquantifiable, because they're letting us have the ball.
Or, flip it on it's head, every one of those players has been in decline since they started playing Angeball.
Maybe the players aren't the problem?
I don't think we'll be anywhere near it if he was given the season.
Is he gone yet?
And you believe Levy is not the one who tells how much to spend and where.
No fcukin top 6 club would want Wermer in the squad.
Not magically is there or isn't.
The opposite. You can't magically make it happen. You need to work on it and practice it. Add different patterns and movement triggers in until the players find something that works and click together. There is always the risk that some of them won't be able to click playing like this as well.
We had 2 maybe 3 counter attacks vs the gooners. Fucked them up as well. This idea that you choose to give up possession and counter attack would work with forwards who can't execute when they have more opportunities to create is probably the least logical one I've read on here.
People want to say there are miracle cure, simple, silver bullet answers. Unless you have the money for truly elite talent, in their prime, quick fixes don't exist from tactics that's for sure.
Where I do agree with everyone is that the front players were passing sideways too much and playing a bit scared. It reminds me of when Jose and Conte used to say that they weren't telling players to drop back and defend. Ange seems to be telling the players to be brave and have the belief to try things other than safe passes but they just aren't getting the habit atm.
He's currently 20/1 so outside odds for next manager.
It's more likely to be Dyche next than anyone else. Especially after 2 back to back losses having been 2 up.
I actually think there are chairman, of which Levy is one, who don't really like the optics of being the first to sack a coach in a season. And it's usually someone in Evertons position - bottom of the league, pointless and clueless that do it first.
Heck, we could get Dyche in to replace Ange
He could have said no to Werner and demanded better. I sympathise with managers having to accept any old tat at the end of the window if its them or no one but not signing off on Werner in early June. That one Is on him.
44 points from 32 matches suggests we are well capable of it.
He's currently 20/1 so outside odds for next manager.
It's more likely to be Dyche next than anyone else. Especially after 2 back to back losses having been 2 up.
I actually think there are chairman, of which Levy is one, who don't really like the optics of being the first to sack a coach in a season. And it's usually someone in Evertons position - bottom of the league, pointless and clueless that do it first.
Heck, we could get Dyche in to replace Ange
Perhaps but its just a question of time now. I prefer to rip the band aid off.He's currently 20/1 so outside odds for next manager.
It's more likely to be Dyche next than anyone else. Especially after 2 back to back losses having been 2 up.
I actually think there are chairman, of which Levy is one, who don't really like the optics of being the first to sack a coach in a season. And it's usually someone in Evertons position - bottom of the league, pointless and clueless that do it first.
Heck, we could get Dyche in to replace Ange
The rest of us? You had some delusion of consensus that everyone agrees with you?
I am telling you for a fact that neither Howe nor Arteta wanted to give us as much domination of the ball and territory as we took and neither of them wanted to get turned over by our press repeatedly in dangerous situations, high up the pitch. The way we play does that to teams whether they want it or not. The only 2 teams that will have the ability to try and dominate us back will be City and Liverpool. The gooners at home if they are full strength probably as well.
What those teams do is look to to do is attack us at set pieces and try to get in behind when they can break our press. They also have to hope that we aren't clinical against them and create/take our chances. Atm both of those things are happening. If we find some chemistry up front, our results will change.
unreal odds that. worth a oner all day.
yea people confuse possession with control. control of the game is when you are allowed to easily reshape and get ready to counter every time you nick the ball. we are the easiest side to play against tactically in the league.
I think it might actually be Everton or Southampton, but I get your point.
it doesnt get much easier than just having to get compact, wait for a lack of quality, and counter.
On the positive note, a 1 ppg average will keep us in the PL, swings and roundabouts.