Manager Ange Postecoglou

[William Burroughs]

So let me get this, results, which is more or less an objective criteria of judging how a team is performing, is not important but the way we play, which is probably a very subjective criteria, is important instead. Lol.

In other words, all the likes of ten Hag needs to do to save his job is to "just play better football bro".

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This is the level of delusion that Ange lovers are now resorting to. Apparently form and points are now apparently unimportant.

This is our worst start to a season since 08/09's 2 points from 8 games fiasco. If you think that represents progress, then I suggest following another sport because football clearly isn't for you.

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Yes i agree. Results are the objective criteria of a team is performing. Of course, there is no discussing that. But it doesnt mean that a team cant be on the right track and have potential to be very good even if the results dont show it right now. We can talk about the results in the last 12 months. But its not fair, because its not the same reasons for dropping point this season and end of last season

No, Its not being delusional or ange love. I agree with him being to stubborn, often naive and also the too late subs against Brighton. But since Ange is our manager now, i think we shall keep him for at least the end of the season. See how it goes. See if we can win a trophy. Its just as delusional to believe that we can keep firing the manager during their 2nd season and expect some magic to happen. Its also delusional to believe that finishin 4th makes any difference. We need to stick by a manager, develop a style, a core of hungry players that want to run their socks of every match. We dont have that right now. And it wont change with a new manager.

 

[Dudski]

I think all this chat after 7 games is just noise - our fixtures before the next int break are

West Ham (H)
AZ (H)
Palace (A)
City (H) EFL
Villa (H)
Galatasary (A)
Ipswich (H)

All winnable, especially considering City will be playing a weakened team.

If we don't pick up a min of 10 points from those prem fixtures my concern will have grown quite a bit. Think Turkey will be a tough place to go - would be happy with a draw there, but we should be beating AZ at home and I want to see a proper good performance vs City in the cup.

If we end GW 11 on 20 points we'll be satisfied.... 22 would be very good and around our average position after 11 games when we have finished in the top 4.

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The schedule sure look good. We'll go on a streak and all will be sunshine and smiles, then we'll take on the bigger teams again and it will be back to doom and gloom.

 

[dudu]

The schedule sure look good. We'll go on a streak and all will be sunshine and smiles, then we'll take on the bigger teams again and it will be back to doom and gloom.

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Well, Villa are in there - considered one of the big teams atm - prob our biggest challenge in the league in that period.

They have been conceding plenty though - 2 a piece against Everton and Ipswich and I'm pretty sure their game last week vs United was their first CS of the season - despite playing predominantly relegation fodder.

 

[Spaniel]

I see you’re putting the 88 back into daveyboy88.
Racist fucking troll.

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I don't see that post as racist. I think he's absolutely right. They follow Ange/ Son and will not follow the team without them. Why is that racist? It doesn't put these people down...

 

[Deuterz]

Perhaps, but there is an absolute fuck tonne of football to be played between now and then and I'm not seeing enough reason to throw in the towel just yet. After the int break we have a ridiculous amount of football to be playing and i think that run of 7 games will show us really where we are at and what we can expect from the season as a whole.

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That run of seven games includes a lot of comfortable fixtures. Interesting that you think this will really show where we’re at. Where we tend to struggle is not only when the big clubs rock up but when there’s a Newcastle or Brighton away. The fixtures you need to win a good amount if you have designs on top 4.

We tend to beat the fodder. Especially at home. So yes, after that run I can see us being 5th/4th. But then it’s City at the Etihad, Liverpool, Chelsea, Woolwich at the Emirates not long after and even a Bournemouth away will, imo, be squeaky.

What I haven’t seen this season is progression. We are very good at things we were very good at last season. I’d even say we have improved in some weaker elements but then managed to discover all new weaknesses. We just look a very unstable side.

 

[Cranston]

He's an interesting one. One thing I've noticed from watching a lot of football is that at some point in almost every game an assistant comes over to talk to the manager. Sometimes they look at video on a tablet and talk about what they are seeing. But I don't recall anyone coming near Postecoglou during matches. He's a self-contained unit. The press conferences also can be interesting. Often he is rubbing his face or appears to be bored. In fairness, those events are probably boring for any coach. Sometimes you get eye contact, sometimes he's looking away. Just a real interesting fellow. Again, not saying these things critically because there are plenty of managers who are performers of a sort. Mourinho was often playing with the press. They knew, he knew, but most of the time it was entertaining.

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I think he suffers from a case of imposter syndrome. He’s had to fight tooth and nail through less respected leagues and, now that he’s arrived, feels the need to over compensate and ‘act the part’.

It’s understandable.

 

[daveyboy88]

I think he suffers from a case of imposter syndrome. He’s had to fight tooth and nail through less respected leagues and, now that he’s arrived, feels the need to over compensate and ‘act the part’.

It’s understandable.

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this idiot has basically just said he deliberately watched us die and cost us 3 points because of the starting players not doing something or other hahaha, can you fucking believe that!

basically he doesnt have any football acumen and doesnt know what the fuck to do once things start slipping. hes proven this over and over when he does finally make subs. 3-2 and he brings on sarr and bissouma hahahahah.

 

[Coys1955]

Going from Ange to Tuchel would be hilarious. Complete opposite issues. Tuchel is miles ahead as a tactician and miles more adaptable but really bad at building a harmonious dressing room and getting on with the board. Areas Ange has excelled in to be fair to him.

We would have a decent chance at a cup under Tuchel though. We’d probably go back to a five back.

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Tuchel is completely mad. Conte level mad. He wouldn’t get past the first transfer window.

 

[dudu]

That run of seven games includes a lot of comfortable fixtures. Interesting that you think this will really show where we’re at. Where we tend to struggle is not only when the big clubs rock up but when there’s a Newcastle or Brighton away. The fixtures you need to win a good amount if you have designs on top 4.

We tend to beat the fodder. Especially at home. So yes, after that run I can see us being 5th/4th. But then it’s City at the Etihad, Liverpool, Chelsea, Woolwich at the Emirates not long after and even a Bournemouth away will, imo, be squeaky.

What I haven’t seen this season is progression. We are very good at things we were very good at last season. I’d even say we have improved in some weaker elements but then managed to discover all new weaknesses. We just look a very unstable side.

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Not really -

We win one of Wolves or West Ham H/A, Everton A, Fulham H last season and we are top 4 - win them all we are joint third on 82 points even with our poor form at the end of last season.

We improve on those results, we are challenging for top 4 even with the losses to Newcastle and Brighton away.

 

[GOAT]

this idiot has basically just said he deliberately watched us die and cost us 3 points because of the starting players not doing something or other hahaha, can you fucking believe that!

basically he doesnt have any football acumen and doesnt know what the fuck to do once things start slipping. hes proven this over and over when he does finally make subs. 3-2 and he brings on sarr and bissouma hahahahah.

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Irony of this post.

 

[bus-conductor]

What I haven’t seen this season is progression. We are very good at things we were very good at last season. I’d even say we have improved in some weaker elements but then managed to discover all new weaknesses. We just look a very unstable side.

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I don’t think that’s actually true, certainly not what a lot of the underlying metrics (and some overt ones) suggest. Some things do seem to be improving.(our expected points had us 3rd 3pts off top).

Fair to say some tropes are omnipresent, but then we only added one first team player, and he’d only had one decent PL season in his career, to the shower of shite squad of last season.

Nothing that a VVD, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Mane, Salah and a couple of Jota’s couldn’t fix though.

 

[Deuterz]

I don’t think that’s actually true, certainly not what a lot of the underlying metrics (and some overt ones) suggest. Some things do seem to be improving.(our expected points had us 3rd 3pts off top).

Fair to say some tropes are omnipresent, but then we only added one first team player, and he’d only had one decent PL season in his career, to the shower of shite squad of last season.

Nothing that a VVD, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Mane, Salah and a couple of Jota’s couldn’t fix though.

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Underlying metrics are insanely misleading, expected points? Bitch please.

Our squad isn’t bad at all. We shouldn’t need a team capable of 100 points to do well. Our squad definitely isn’t worse than Villa for example. It’s better. Emery just schools Ange as a coach.

And he does it with real points, not expected ones.

 

[bus-conductor]

Underlying metrics are insanely misleading, expected points? Bitch please.

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Our squad isn’t bad at all. We shouldn’t need a team capable of 100 points to do well. Our squad definitely isn’t worse than Villa for example. It’s better. Emery just schools Ange as a coach.

And he does it with real points, not expected ones.

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The Emery that Ange tonked last time they played and we only finished 2 points behind?

I definitely don’t think our squad is any better than Villas, and it certainly wasn’t last season. Just look at the forward options they had last year to ours. Their back up fucking striker is more talented than any of our first teamers.

 

[World]

We are tactically weak and lack solidity.
As entertaining as we are to watch because of the high tempo, this type of football only works if your MF can retain possession for a consistent amount of time (aka Barcelona 2008). Since we clearly can't do that at that level, we end up losing the ball too often from pressing which results in too much spaces being conceeded.
On top of that, opposing forwards seem to have too easy a time to unmark themselves from our defenders ... sign that our defenders are unsure of where they should be, and this is tactically alarming.

 

[Deuterz]

The Emery that Ange tonked last time they played and we only finished 2 points behind?

I definitely don’t think our squad is any better than Villas, and it certainly wasn’t last season. Just look at the forward options they had last year to ours. Their back up fucking striker is more talented than any of our first teamers.

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Duran is definitely not more talented than any player we have. He’s good though.

We have a better squad than Villa. I’d take their keeper, striker (but Solanke vs Watkins isn’t a huge gap) and a couple of others but that’s it.

 

[Shotgunofmichalebrow]

The ‘fanboy’ term is so childish and pathetic. Whether it be Ange/Levy/Son/brennan etc

We’re all spurs fans and want what’s best for spurs and for spurs to win and be successful

I get very irritated when accuse others of being a fan of a ‘business’ or a ‘spreadsheet’ etc

Childish nonsense

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I want to agree with you. I do, mostly when it comes to Levy/ Enic. But you are wrong, there are self confessed: fans of Sonny, Ange, Romero, Jose EXCLUSIVELY and some have been frankly mad, they would burn white Hart Lane to the ground and drive said love of their life to there new job at Highbury. I take your point though it's mostly childish.

 

[SpursRomania]

3 bad choices, why united are in no rush to sack their coach

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Explain why they’re bad choices.

Also tell me what you think of Marco Rose (probably another bad choice), the RB Leipzig manager.

 

[Klaus]

Well it was nearly everyone. The hype was real.

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Certainly wasn't for me. I wasn't on here so don't have the comments to prove it but I never thought we were more than top 4 contenders under Mou even when we were topping the league. Turns out even that was optimistic.

 

[Klaus]

Well it was nearly everyone. The hype was real.

“Even the brilliant Pochettino sides had a slight soft core, hence why we won fuck all and bottled everything under him. Under Mourinho you just feel this is different. You feel this brilliant genius of a manager is finally going to end this horrendous baron spell of zero trophies. Long live Jose, superb so far this season.”

“Counter attack goals are bangers too. We will be seeing those two goals replayed for years and I'm fine with that. Pundits can wank themselves into a lather about % possession but it is becoming all too apparent that they don't understand football. Cue the media doubling down on how "spurs fans wouldn't accept this style of play if it were a full stadium".”

“Never thought I could enjoy those 1-0 Mourinho victories.
It’s in fact quite fun, the all out defending at the end actually adds suspense to everything.”

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Also where are these comments from, is there a Mourinho thread somewhere?

Would love it if you could name and shame some of them but I can see why you haven't haha

 

[Cranston]

That run of seven games includes a lot of comfortable fixtures. Interesting that you think this will really show where we’re at. Where we tend to struggle is not only when the big clubs rock up but when there’s a Newcastle or Brighton away. The fixtures you need to win a good amount if you have designs on top 4.

We tend to beat the fodder. Especially at home. So yes, after that run I can see us being 5th/4th. But then it’s City at the Etihad, Liverpool, Chelsea, Woolwich at the Emirates not long after and even a Bournemouth away will, imo, be squeaky.

What I haven’t seen this season is progression. We are very good at things we were very good at last season. I’d even say we have improved in some weaker elements but then managed to discover all new weaknesses. We just look a very unstable side.

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Trying to be positive, I think we’ve improved off the ball. And I think Solanke looks like a really good addition.

But we’ve got worse at the back. Still not sure who are best six is, and I remain unconvinced by our wingers.

I think we’ll end up in seventh. A lot of smaller sides struggle as the season and injuries add up, so we’ll pick up some wins.

He needs to win two of the next three though. If we shit the bed against Spam and Villa, Levy will start looking.