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ENIC In or ENIC Out


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More focused on softer, cultural changes. Agree with all of those points but big gap for me is that Levy is a wet lettuce and can’t motivate or inspire - clear strategy to succeed that can be filtered through to everyone
I’ve never really got this. Levy obviously wants to win. Can he inspire others to do the same? Fuck knows. But I doubt Man City are so successful because Mansour is some great leader of people. They just got a great manager in and spent a fortune on players, who mostly have strong mentalities.

If our players need a strong leadership from the CEO of the club, I’d question their personal mindsets. And question the scout or Director that brought them to the club. Player leadership should come from within the group and from the manager. Shouldn’t have anything to do with a CEO.

Saw someone say this weekend that there’s no way Roy Keane would’ve been laughing and joking with Ed Sheerin like Maddison was. Quite an extreme example, but true nonetheless. Here’s an idea James, practice some fucking corners instead. No matter the message coming from Levy or a new CEO, we need stronger players.
 
I view these people as Woolwich, west ham, or Chelsea fans at this point as theyre the only people I know personally who look depressed when I mention the concept of a spurs takeover
It could well be that people are still voting In as there’s not a viable alternative.

As things stand, I’m voting for us to continue along being relatively happy with the club getting into Europe and the odd hope of a trophy.

You’re voting for something that may well lead to glory, but has as much, if not more chance, of being a complete car crash.

If we hear of someone pitching up with the cash to takeover, I’ll reconsider my vote. Presently, it’s voting between the status quo or fuck all.
 
I’ve never really got this. Levy obviously wants to win. Can he inspire others to do the same? Fuck knows. But I doubt Man City are so successful because Mansour is some great leader of people. They just got a great manager in and spent a fortune on players, who mostly have strong mentalities.

If our players need a strong leadership from the CEO of the club, I’d question their personal mindsets. And question the scout or Director that brought them to the club. Player leadership should come from within the group and from the manager. Shouldn’t have anything to do with a CEO.

Saw someone say this weekend that there’s no way Roy Keane would’ve been laughing and joking with Ed Sheerin like Maddison was. Quite an extreme example, but true nonetheless. Here’s an idea James, practice some fucking corners instead. No matter the message coming from Levy or a new CEO, we need stronger players.

See your point but my feeling is that the general rule of thumb is that mentally strong willed players know their worth, demand success, and high wages (not bulletproof...ahem..man utd) .

There's few examples of spurs consistently swimming in that pool. We instead get players that are more cost effective, less wages, and aren't of the caliber which means that elite teams are pulling out stops to get them
 
It could well be that people are still voting In as there’s not a viable alternative.

As things stand, I’m voting for us to continue along being relatively happy with the club getting into Europe and the odd hope of a trophy.

You’re voting for something that may well lead to glory, but has as much, if not more chance, of being a complete car crash.

If we hear of someone pitching up with the cash to takeover, I’ll reconsider my vote. Presently, it’s voting between the status quo or fuck all.
So more of yesterday then... excellent
 
See your point but my feeling is that the general rule of thumb is that mentally strong willed players know their worth, demand success, and high wages (not bulletproof...ahem..man utd) .

There's few examples of spurs consistently swimming in that pool. We instead get players that are more cost effective, less wages, and aren't of the caliber which means that elite teams are pulling out stops to get them
Completely agree. So that means my point of spending money on more established players. Obviously not just on fees, but on wages too.

Don’t want players who need a CEO screaming “WINNERS” before every match to be able to perform on the pitch.
 
Who comes on board with what specific fresh ideas?

I’ve already stated mine.

1. Money to be spent on established players.
2. Full revamp of the scouting setup.
3. Increase spend on the youth setup to allow us to employ top quality management and coaches.

What does your new CEO do differently?
Good idea. Define a wish list of improvements. I would add to yours:

4. Clear mandate to prioritise winning a title before everything else. Halt to "extracurricular" spending Nd hotels which only serve to inflate club value and whose annual revenue is unlikely to move the needle much from a revenue perspective. Almost all funds to be piled into footballing operations, wages, and transfers
5. Vocal publication that we are a club looking to win, and only want players who match our ambition. Hunger and desire.
6. Real backing of a manager short term. Create a squad "likely" of winning a cup or title, not "capable of challenging". Liverpool have been doing this for years.
7. Fix the ticket pricing and sacrifice some revenue to ensure the fanbase is protected over tourists

Edit: I actually don't think the above would need to be maintained for long. A prestigious cup would buy any owner a few years grace. Even ENIC if they changed their way of working to make it happen. Fans are owed it.
 
Over the last few pages, i'm seeing a lot of calls for someone to come in with fresh ideas, because things have gone stale. Sign me up!

What kind of thing are we talking here? What do people want to see happening?

And I don't mean "an owner that wants to win stuff", as thats cheating, because every owner does.

Specifically, what new and fresh ideas are we looking for?
Someone who is willing to increase the wage bill rather than shrink it , after all the stadium was sold to us as the great leveller . The teams who pay the highest wages tend to be most successful over time, not working for United right now admittedly, but did for 25 years. Having said that I’d swap their last 3 years for ours.

Certainly languishing in distant 6th place on wages does not work
 
Over the last few pages, i'm seeing a lot of calls for someone to come in with fresh ideas, because things have gone stale. Sign me up!

What kind of thing are we talking here? What do people want to see happening?

And I don't mean "an owner that wants to win stuff", as thats cheating, because every owner does.

Specifically, what new and fresh ideas are we looking for?
I am obviously aware that there’s nothing we can do and absolutely none of the following will happen. That said:

- A complete buyout of the club.
- ENIC and Levy fully removed.
- New ownership that is ruthlessly committed to winning (including a predilection for bending the rules)
- Ownership that is prepared to pay exorbitant agent fees
- Instruction to agents that we are now in the market for a different calibre of player
- A couple of statement signings to underline the above
- Ability to quickly take a loss on underperforming players (no other serious club would stick with Johnson, we’ll have him for years)

Everything else, as is. ENIC are to be applauded for the incredible work they have done on the stadium and the position they have brought us to. But they’re not the ones for the next step.

I appreciate that the above means I’m advocating Middle East or US investment money. I’m fine with that but understand people hate it and wouldn’t want to see it. Football is such a moral quagmire, it seems pointless to try and claim the high road. All roads are rotten and sullied.

Still, none of this will happen. Best we can hope for is that the stars align again, as with Poch and a generation of players. Will be by luck rather than design.
 
I’ve never really got this. Levy obviously wants to win. Can he inspire others to do the same? Fuck knows. But I doubt Man City are so successful because Mansour is some great leader of people. They just got a great manager in and spent a fortune on players, who mostly have strong mentalities.

If our players need a strong leadership from the CEO of the club, I’d question their personal mindsets. And question the scout or Director that brought them to the club. Player leadership should come from within the group and from the manager. Shouldn’t have anything to do with a CEO.

Saw someone say this weekend that there’s no way Roy Keane would’ve been laughing and joking with Ed Sheerin like Maddison was. Quite an extreme example, but true nonetheless. Here’s an idea James, practice some fucking corners instead. No matter the message coming from Levy or a new CEO, we need stronger players.
Mansour isn’t CEO, he’s the owner. Levy is both

There’s a lot more to a club than players and CEO. Hundreds of staff that all need to pull in the same direction which will impact the players
 
It could well be that people are still voting In as there’s not a viable alternative.

As things stand, I’m voting for us to continue along being relatively happy with the club getting into Europe and the odd hope of a trophy.

You’re voting for something that may well lead to glory, but has as much, if not more chance, of being a complete car crash.

If we hear of someone pitching up with the cash to takeover, I’ll reconsider my vote. Presently, it’s voting between the status quo or fuck all.

LOL
 
I am obviously aware that there’s nothing we can do and absolutely none of the following will happen. That said:

- A complete buyout of the club.
- ENIC and Levy fully removed.
- New ownership that is ruthlessly committed to winning (including a predilection for bending the rules)
- Ownership that is prepared to pay exorbitant agent fees
- Instruction to agents that we are now in the market for a different calibre of player
- A couple of statement signings to underline the above
- Ability to quickly take a loss on underperforming players (no other serious club would stick with Johnson, we’ll have him for years)

Everything else, as is. ENIC are to be applauded for the incredible work they have done on the stadium and the position they have brought us to. But they’re not the ones for the next step.

I appreciate that the above means I’m advocating Middle East or US investment money. I’m fine with that but understand people hate it and wouldn’t want to see it. Football is such a moral quagmire, it seems pointless to try and claim the high road. All roads are rotten and sullied.

Still, none of this will happen. Best we can hope for is that the stars align again, as with Poch and a generation of players. Will be by luck rather than design.
I’m perfectly fine with investment wherever it comes from. Not fine with bending or breaking the rules though. Even though I know that means we aren’t on a level playing field.

As for stars aligning, it does seem to me that when things go wrong, it’s Levy and ENIC to blame, but when they go well, it’s pure luck. Credit needs to be given when deserved.
 
Over the last few pages, i'm seeing a lot of calls for someone to come in with fresh ideas, because things have gone stale. Sign me up!

What kind of thing are we talking here? What do people want to see happening?

And I don't mean "an owner that wants to win stuff", as thats cheating, because every owner does.

Specifically, what new and fresh ideas are we looking for?
I would just like to see what difference it makes if we have a owner who comes in who says he wants to make us the most successful English football club and he will not accept anything other than winning, I'd like to see becoming Premier League champions on our road map, I just think as a club we need a complete culture change from the Top down , as a fan I want to feel like football is the top priority for our owners, and that they see making us successful as their sole objective!
 
You used to be interesting. Didn’t always agree with you, but you almost always had something to say for yourself.

What are you nowadays? What are you actually here for? Everyone on here seems to have found you out for the waste you are.

It’s a shame to see what you’ve become. Maybe you need a new CEO to motivate you back to previous glories.

You need something, because posting “LOL” and the odd sarcastic laugh emoji is fathoms beneath the old you.
 
2. Sack the cunt in your avatar.

Season 1 Pilot GIF by Rick and Morty
 
I've always been very respectful of what Levy has done for us. The way he has grown our revenues, the new stadium, the new training ground, it was all much needed, and we easily could have gone down a different path like Everton. However, I just cannot defend Levy anymore. I understood why we could not buy Poch better players as the new stadium had to be the financial priority at the time. I also understood why we erred on the side of caution when Covid hit, sensible finances etc. when we had so much new debt. But now, after 5 full seasons in the new stadium, adn record revenues, there is no longer any excuse for not spending to win.

Our wage bill is the 6th biggest in the EPL, and half of Man City's / Man U's. It is dwarfed by Woolwich and Chelsea's. It is smaller than Liverpool's. It is why we are competing with the likes of Newcastle and Villa for a Europa League spot. Our par is 6th. Basically the same as 15-20 years ago. If you build a young squad with potential, you will be inconsistent. No-one ever won anything being inconsistent. It's why we can beat Man C and Vill but then lose to Palace and Ipswich. It is time to buy players who are in their peak years and ready to win now. No excuses.
 
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