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Management Levy / ENIC

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Levy In or Levy Out

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JimothyCF14 said:
I do agree with much of this.

I don't think he's uninterested in on field success, I just don't think he has the ability or willingness to take the risks required because, and as much as we laugh at the phrase, is wary we would "do a Leeds".

It's why I do think it's time to sell up, but why I think he won't and nor will anyone come in for us. The pig has been fattened too much.
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I 100% believe he looks at Everton and thinks "there but for the grace of I go Spurs".

Which makes him even more unlikely to change his approach. While we may look at his tenure as a generally trophy-less failure, it's entirely likely he views as a very successful period. All about perspectives.
 
MemphisWill said:
You realize, of course, he owns the stadium and has a suite. He can easily watch without subjecting himself to the crowd.

Billionaires don't sell multi-billion pound assets because the plebs yell at them.

Too many come from the, in my opinion, erroneous perspective that he doesn't care about results, either. Lewis may not, but Levy has labored day in and day out for 20 years at this football club. He likely (wrongly) thinks that he's the only chance Spurs have of overcoming the state of inequity in football. That the club needs him to maximize revenue, minimize expenses, stay afloat and continue to catch up with the pack financially.

He's not a good chairman, but I don't think for a second he's a disinterested one. He attends more matches than anyone in his position at a club of our level.

It's also unlikely that any oil state is interested in Spurs. The MO for oil state football purchases has been to buy cheap/distressed clubs. That's City, Newcastle, and Chelsea. Everton if they continue to teeter and come undone will be more attractive. Our PSR doesn't matter - the FA has shown themselves to be weak kneed in enforcing those rules against clubs with political pull, which is what the oil states have. 1 call round to some MPs and No. 10, and the FA suddenly finds other more pressing matters. The only clubs that will ever be punished by PSR will be the lower table unconnected clubs trying to spend their way up (like Villa).

Spurs would likely cost £4B before Levy would consider it. It'd take another £1-2B on players to elevate them to the level desired. £5-6B to get there.

You can buy Everton for £500M, with a nice new stadium, plow £2B into players and leapfrog Spurs with half the investment. We're simply not as attractive as some think.

Levy isn't going anywhere. When Spurs do sell, it will be him and an investment bank buying out Lewis. He'll die in the chairman's seat.
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We can’t get him to leave but this might put pressure on him to spend in the right areas.
 
MemphisWill said:
So then you're supporting no change whatsoever?

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Honestly, if I felt so strongly as you do, I'd find another hobby. If the only thing that will satisfy you, if you truly believe the only way we'll succeed is new ownership, why do you make yourself miserable?

Because Levy is never, ever, going anywhere. Lewis might fuck off, but it will be Levy buying him out. Levy's son is CEO of Tavistock. They're part of the furniture now.
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Why is Levy going nowhere? He’s only a billionaire when he sells. At some point he retires and employs a CEO. That alone will be a huge upturn for the club
 
Deuterz said:
People express dissatisfaction in lots of different ways. I for one just refuse to put a penny in the clubs coffers. Have for a long while wanted to buy a shirt but won't do it, not a penny will go in to this football club while Levy is in charge. Aware it is a drop in the ocean and the vast majority won't do it.

ANY form of protest is better than none. I would personally prefer everyone refuses to buy tickets, go to the store, get food at the stadium etc, but I know that will never happen, that there will be no collective agreement to achieve this. If missing the first 15 mins or screaming Levy out and making him miserable at games is what they want to do, then do it!
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Yeah exactly
 
Raf said:
We can’t get him to leave but this might put pressure on him to spend in the right areas.
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I've never been against people voicing their displeasure. All for it. All for people jacking it in if they feel Levy/ENIC will never win and it's all futile.

But, in the end, I don't feel like the collective discontent is as large as some think it is. Even this poll - most are neither pro-ENIC nor anti-ENIC...they just don't care and certainly dont care enough to vote.

Haven't seen a protest break 50 yet - Levy likely sees it the same. I think deep down inside where we don't want to talk about out loud, a lot of supporters look at Everton and think it could be a lot worse, too, and maybe we should watch what we wish for.

Personally, I'd rather be in Everton's shoes maybe. They dared to do, effectively. They got it all comically wrong, are nearly bust, and staying in the PL by their bloody fingernails. But they fucking tried. We're too afraid of falling from our perch to try and leap for the next one.
 
Zomb said:
Why is Levy going nowhere? He’s only a billionaire when he sells. At some point he retires and employs a CEO. That alone will be a huge upturn for the club
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He's a billionaire - you don't think these people live off the liquid cash in their bank account, do you? They live on credit fronted them using their shares as collateral. Joe Lewis is nearly completely illiquid (which is why he can't jack money into Spurs) - but lives like a fucking king on his yacht.

Normal people really just do not understand how the finances of the rich work. They're nothing like you and I.

He only gets richer the longer he stays.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
You realise you just quoted a parody account?
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I responded but I have deleted it so nobody will know I fell for it

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Furball man said:
Did win the FA cup 3 time from 81 -91 mind 👍

Oh and a waffer cup. I’d be happy with 4 cups in a decade

Weren't we the record holders or joint holder of the FA Cup too ?
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I made a post somewhere that outlined it pretty well, but I'm not going to dig it out. The vast majority of Spurs success comes from 2 compact periods of success - the Nicholson era and the very late 70s-mid 80s.

Most of the older posters here fondly remember that second period from their youth, which explains a lot of the discontent.

The 25 year period from 1961-1986 covers almost all of our success.

In ENIC's 25 years, we've also been in very nearly as many SFs as during that golden ear above. So we're not far off from ENIC's period being the most successful in club history. Handful of matches, really.

Not a defense of ENIC, they haven't equipped the managers to close the deal. But the lack of success is sometimes exaggerated.
 
MemphisWill said:
I made a post somewhere that outlined it pretty well, but I'm not going to dig it out. The vast majority of Spurs success comes from 2 compact periods of success - the Nicholson era and the very late 70s-mid 80s.

Most of the older posters here fondly remember that second period from their youth, which explains a lot of the discontent.

The 25 year period from 1961-1986 covers almost all of our success.

In ENIC's 25 years, we've also been in very nearly as many SFs as during that golden ear above. So we're not far off from ENIC's period being the most successful in club history. Handful of matches, really.

Not a defense of ENIC, they haven't equipped the managers to close the deal. But the lack of success is sometimes exaggerated.
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That’s a bit like naming who came second during the last 10 seasons in leagues & cups

No one remembers 👍
 
It's finally happened.

After calling Levy a bald, stingy git for years, he has finally worn me down. He has won. Maybe its Stockholm Syndrome but I not only accept him as the chairman, I think he is a good chairman. Everything I accused him off is incorrect. He is a generous and a lavish spender. With an afro

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asterdroid said:
I'm surprised they don't sell a special edition of these mugs in the shop
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Our club is going down it so why not.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
All it tells us, is that a player who is about to leave the club is throwing out pelters at the owners.

I really don't think it's the 'win' you think it is.
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Anything that calls out Levy and embarrasses the bald cunt for the way he runs the club is a WIN.

Unless you’re happy ranking dead last in the league for wage to turnover ratio - even before the huge reduction in the wage bill this summer. DEAD LAST.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1bdznxz/the_swiss_ramble_premier_league_clubs/#lightbox

Its why we rarely get established players - usually pay big fees for potential with low wages like BJohnson or Solanke never an Osimhen - and if another Big 6 comes like Chavs for Neto this summer we’re done cause we won’t pay the wages - even tho our revenue is higher than Chavs. It’s why we’ll never win the league even tho we have the league’s 4th highest turnover. It’s pathetic.
 
SpursDNA said:
Anything that calls out Levy and embarrasses the bald cunt for the way he runs the club is a WIN.

Unless you’re happy ranking dead last in the league for wage to turnover ratio - even before the huge reduction in the wage bill this summer. DEAD LAST.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1bdznxz/the_swiss_ramble_premier_league_clubs/#lightbox

Its why we rarely get established players - usually pay big fees for potential with low wages like BJohnson or Solanke never an Osimhen - and if another Big 6 comes like Chavs for Neto this summer we’re done cause we won’t pay the wages - even tho our revenue is higher than Chavs. It’s why we’ll never win the league even tho we have the league’s 4th highest turnover. It’s pathetic.
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