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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Yeah tbf I was unfair on him - was less an identity crisis and him specifically being told you need to play this style. Which is absolutely fucking mental.

It was never going to work here for Nuno. A panic hire because we couldn't get Conte who was tossed aside. Treated horrendously by our board and I bet he got a lot of fucking satisfaction out of beating us. Good bloke, never somebody who the fans could really get behind but he's perfect for Forest.
I also really dislike who we've become. We used to have a bit of class. But under this lot the way we treat people yuck.... Pochettino, Nuno, Jose, Furlough, senior concession, Vertonghen, Loris. We used to be Mabbutt, Defoe, Perryman Burkinshaw. Decent. Now we are class less from the pitch to boardroom. That's Levy Cullen and the others.
 



FYI.
We have in England what we call "a football season."
It normally runs from August to May.
Last season we finished 5th, missing top 4 and UCL by 2 points.
This season, despite 10 regular first teamers being injured, we are 6 points behind 5th place and UCL.
 
Not surprised but pissed off with the failure to adapt.

I understand the philosophy, but when you have the injuries we do and an 18 year old at centre back, it seems unnecessarily stubborn and reckless to continue with both fullbacks so high up near the opposition box.

The goal we gave away was very avoidable under the circumstances.

Grey will be the next to get injured playing this stupid game plan. Every centre back has done their hammy so it’s likely he will eventually too.
 
Grey will be the next to get injured playing this stupid game plan. Every centre back has done their hammy so it’s likely he will eventually too.
Dragusin got kicked on the ankle, and Romero’s muscle injury wasn’t after sprinting back but after he tried to do a Cruyff turn in the box.

I do think broadly you’re correct that a high line increases injury risk, especially in a packed schedule playing once every 3 days. The solution to that should be buying more CBs.
We started the season with 3 natural CBs and Spence out of the Europa squad… poor decision making by all.
 
That went right over my head. :) There is a lot of how managers and players move around in football that is down to agencies and business relationships. Just now you've got a front office and manager with ties to City Group. It's one more reason Postecoglou isn't going anywhere. Two things will save him. First, he was in the media and did motivational speaking in Australia and he's good at selling himself and his system. He put a lot of effort up front into telling fans what they wanted to hear and creating an image. That reserve of good will is still working for him. But the second thing is the people in the front office who should be overseeing his work and evaluating him are often from the same network of connections. I think he is as close to "fire proof" as any Spurs manager has ever been.

This does worry me. Of course levy always falls for bullshit baffles brains too which our current manager has in abundance.
 
I'm not even sure if this accusation of enjoying a "managerial-merry-go-round" is factually correct. Have we employed more managers in, let's say, the last 20 years compared to some other clubs that are often mentioned as benchmarks of success?

Clubs like Bayern (13), Real Madrid (16) and Ajax (13) have actually had more full-time managers than us (10) in the same time period. If we're guilty of changing managers too much, then these supposedly enviable clubs are doing even worse.

Like it or hate it, this managerial-merry-go-round is universal. It's not something we as a club are particularly guilty of resorting to. In fact, we're probably on the more conservative side in terms of sticking with our managers in the face of adversity.

The average lifetime of a manager is around 18 months. Don't expect them to get years and years, hundreds of millions of pounds worth of signings before you think you can start evaluating them. No one is afforded this sort of a luxury, for good reasons.
 
Dragusin got kicked on the ankle, and Romero’s muscle injury wasn’t after sprinting back but after he tried to do a Cruyff turn in the box.

I do think broadly you’re correct that a high line increases injury risk, especially in a packed schedule playing once every 3 days. The solution to that should be buying more CBs.
We started the season with 3 natural CBs and Spence out of the Europa squad… poor decision making by all.
How many CB would you have in 26 man squad?
 
Enic, Injuries, 3 games a week every single excuse except the main one. Our manager and his philosophy simply isn't good enough at this level. When everyone, especially Levy recognises this, then we can get rid and move on!
 
They haven’t been “sufficiently” upgraded. Our squad depth is absolute ass and players like Son have massively regressed since Conte was here. So essentially we’ve lost Kane and Son.

Also people on here may not like to talk about him in that way but Conte is a world class manager. Easily top 10 in the world. Of course his tactics can get more out of the players. We won’t be getting a manager at that level again anytime soon. The era of deluxe spurs that Poch created is over and we’re back to Jol/Redknapp style teams at best.

I see no point in sacking Ange mid season with the state of this squad. If we’re going to get rid then we might as well wait until the Summer when the likes of Iraola would be more willing to jump ship. Even then, I can’t get excited for anymore “projects”. Levy will always leave his manager short in crucial areas in the Summer.
they have been sufficiently upgraded. dier, lloris, sanchez, emerson, skipp, winks..these players were seeing a LOT of football. all serious weak links in a side. they have all been sufficiently upgraded. the front line is now the weak area, whereas before it was the strong point due to kane.

our depth isnt great, but it was fucking diabolical with conte.
 
How many CB would you have in 26 man squad?
I think four plus youth realistically. A 22 man squad should be two full teams. It’s a 25 man squad so you’d then go of one utility defender, utility midfielder and forward. Then your kids to supplement.

If we had 4 proper CBs and rotated somewhat you could argue we wouldn’t be in this bad a position. A lack of options and rotation has exacerbated poor fortune too.
 
I think four plus youth realistically. A 22 man squad should be two full teams. It’s a 25 man squad so you’d then go of one utility defender, utility midfielder and forward. Then your kids to supplement.

If we had 4 proper CBs and rotated somewhat you could argue we wouldn’t be in this bad a position. A lack of options and rotation has exacerbated poor fortune too.
Ah okay I thought 26 for some reason.
 
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