It's the manner of the defeats which as I expected drifted into this season.
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Management Ange Postecoglou
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You know the more I read your posts the more I see similarities with Ange. He’s obnoxious just like you. Makes sense now.
Ah, it seems we’ve finally found some common ground, Shady—what a rarity!
.You’re absolutely right, Ange is fortunate to still be in the job; in fact, many managers have been shown the door for far less. That’s exactly why he shouldn’t be allowed to continue just because of the ‘commitment bias.’ He’s had enough time, and results (or lack thereof) are the ultimate decider, like you say.
As for Mason, I don’t believe anyone is seriously calling for him to take the reins long-term—let’s not kid ourselves. The idea of him coming in is more about removing Ange before he does more damage to the club; there is zero downside to doing so. Mason likely will not do any better or any worse, it’s just about not rewarding incompetence and paying Ange an absurd amount of money for being mediocre and sending us backwards.
It’s not about romanticising the idea of ‘Mason as saviour,’ but simply a temporary solution until we have a replacement.
However, I’d argue that, a qualified replacement should be actively lined up before sacking him; and also, the club shouldn’t be dragging its heels until the summer to avoid the ‘optics’ of sacking yet another manager.
As a final thought, If the players are genuinely ‘behind’ Ange, as you say, then why are the performances so abject?
Players being emotionally supportive of a manager is nice in theory, but in practice, it’s meaningless if they aren’t producing results. At some point, we have to accept that the issue isn’t just effort or buy-in—it’s tactics, game management, and organisation, all of which have been lacking for months, so in that regard, I don’t think Mason being in would make much difference, it would just serve to remove Ange who doesn’t deserve to be employed at this football club and rewarded for mediocrity.
She’d infuse them with strengthI agree with all of that, apart from the tea lady. In fact, think she would probably do a better job setting up the team
You actually seem like a good bloke not a troll or someone who doesn't care. So genuinely.. he doesn't know what he's doing.
Son is an elite player, and one of the best in the prem. But of course, he is getting older and no longer has Kane to partner with.
We have a number of players that would be productive squad players in a 'top team'. Kulu, Romero, Porro, but they aren't good enough to lead an elite team.
I can't help but feel that letting Holberg go for pittance was a mistake. He was a leader and a warrior.
Just fuck off.
If you think keeping this div in charge is right, you simply ain't a fan.
I'd literally rather have no manager at this point and see how it goes rather than persist with this utter fraud.
I just worked it out, you sound like Ryan Mason, meek, inexperienced and clueless TBH
Question ( and I'm not trying to be funny here )
Have any of you lovely people got any FA coaching badges?
Have any of you lovely people got any FA coaching badges?
You are being toxic. Surely sacking him with no plan and throwing Mason in as head coach for a few months is an even worse scenario? Players like Kulusevski would 100% ask to leave in the Summer if that happens
Someone asked a couple of weeks back who from our first choice 11 STARTS for The other top sides. The general consensus was that our entire first 11 are probably all good squad options for them but it’s debatable whether any would actually start.
Therein lies the real problem.
Most here hated Hoijberg. Letting him go wasn’t the issue, replacing him with kids is. FWIW I’d have kept him.
No. But we’ve got eyes. And common sense.
Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results is madness. You don’t need degrees or coaching badges to see that.
Ah, it seems we’ve finally found some common ground, Shady—what a rarity!
You’re absolutely right, Ange is fortunate to still be in the job; in fact, many managers have been shown the door for far less. That’s exactly why he shouldn’t be allowed to continue just because of the ‘commitment bias.’ He’s had enough time, and results (or lack thereof) are the ultimate decider, like you say.
As for Mason, I don’t believe anyone is seriously calling for him to take the reins long-term—let’s not kid ourselves. The idea of him coming in is more about removing Ange before he does more damage to the club; there is zero downside to doing so. Mason likely will not do any better or any worse, it’s just about not rewarding incompetence and paying Ange an absurd amount of money for being mediocre and sending us backwards.
It’s not about romanticising the idea of ‘Mason as saviour,’ but simply a temporary solution until we have a replacement.
However, I’d argue that, a qualified replacement should be actively lined up before sacking him; and also, the club shouldn’t be dragging its heels until the summer to avoid the ‘optics’ of sacking yet another manager.
As a final thought, If the players are genuinely ‘behind’ Ange, as you say, then why are the performances so abject?
Players being emotionally supportive of a manager is nice in theory, but in practice, it’s meaningless if they aren’t producing results. At some point, we have to accept that the issue isn’t just effort or buy-in—it’s tactics, game management, and organisation, all of which have been lacking for months, so in that regard, I don’t think Mason being in would make much difference, it would just serve to remove Ange who doesn’t deserve to be employed at this football club and rewarded for mediocrity.
This scenario isn't likely until the end of the season, that's my point.
A temp solution of Mason isn't better than a FT solution of Ange - we're much better off with letting the guy work it out and waiting to see where he is and where we are come the end of the season as opposed to jumping now.
Ueffa B. But I wouldn't take the pay cut, or work for Levy.
I really think it's a sackable offence to keep starting bissouma
True but I think we were ok defensively but maddison and son were in terrible form and we didn't have Solanke who makes a big difference I think.
Spot on Hojbjerg should have gone sooner it was replacing him with a development player that was the issue.
Bissouma is as consistent as our team, he was good against Utd and shite against Liverpool, chances are he'll probably be good again.
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Come off it. 1 league cup last ditch winner against Coventry and 2 euro games against nobodys. The league games were against a shit Man U and Brentford who can’t win away.