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Player Archie Gray
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He's only taking refuge in here because he's hiding from the Ange thread
What can I say, I love spiders and live in a land loaded with them!
When he moves into centre mid I hope the fans are patient with him because he is not a Carrick or Pirlo, he does sometimes give the ball away, I don't think he has shown a tendency to score goals from midfield, I think his strengths are to read danger, intercept and then play simple passes for other more forward thinking teammates to do their business......
iirc in a few pre season games he played centre mid and at times he didn't look comfortable, passes went astray, and plenty of fans were on his back saying what a waste of money
Bergvall has had plenty of doubters too
These kids need 100% patience and support. The talent is there but they will have bad games, show inconsistency, will have t play different positions during this developing stage, but in two or three years time they will be better off for it.
They both had great games against the Bin Dippers and that was a real bonus I reckon!
I remember Gray was MOM and dominated against Chelsea in the cup last season playing CM. I would need to watch him there to know what type of midfielder he can be, but yeah I guess he could complement Bergvall really well, who would be the 8 and Gray the 6.
Agree they need time and they probably won't be consistently great for a good few years yet.
Great great talent.
Genuinely think he could be a star at our club in the future
Genuinely think he could be a star at our club in the future
He can see a pass got much better football IQ than Bissouma or Bentancur. Obviously Bissouma and Bentancur are slightly better than him at the moment because of their physicality at the moment but he has 18 got plenty of time to grow.
The lad is so mature he picked up the ball at the end last night for either Kinsky or Bergvall to fight over I guess, knowing that it would be important to them.
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I was shocked at how skinny he was when he left the pitch yesterday I know he is 18but he handles himself pretty well physically on the pitch so when he fills out he should be fine as a DM+
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I don't think you need to visit this forum to know that we're very happy with Archie. Ange has spoken incredibly highly of him in a couple of recent press conferences. You won't find a Spurs fan with a bad word for him.
I'm looking forward to seeing him given licence to start getting forwards a bit more often.
He absolutely deserves proper midfield minutes when our actual defenders are back, however we'll need to be prepared to be patient with him when he goes in there. DM and CB are really nothing alike in terms of positioning and the challenges that you face when you're on the ball. It's quite likely that it'll take him some time to readjust to what's required in midfield.
I loved that moment in the game and looks even better in slow mo. His composure on the ball and that pass at the end is a thing of beauty. Can't wait to see him and Bergvall together in midfield.
sarr, gray and bergvall. thats our midfield future right there. out of the 3 of them i think sarr is the one that could be converted to a number 6. hes got that range to cover short ground really quick when defending. just needs to be molded on the ball to be more of an anchor point and stay disciplined. then again maybe gray could too, but think gray might be more beneficial higher up than sarr.
---------sarr---------
--berg--------gray
------mad/kulu----
-----dom---????
would like to see that. pure energy in the midfield with technical quality too. son, johnson, richy or even kulu could partner dom up front depending if you want pace or ball retention.
Sarr is more box to box. Gray as the holding midfielder for me and Sarr and berg as 8s.
yea right now he is. but if he could be molded into a 6 he could be special there. he has the physical attributes for it.
Sarr’s touch is too loose and his passing is mot that refined. He’s always gonna be a a box to box player for me. Where he can improve is refining his box crashing ability.
Totally agree, playing cm and receiving the ball with your back to play is incredibly difficult. Especially the way we play under pressure.
He needs to learn on the job and that means there will be mistakes along the way
but thats if you're comparing him to rodri which is completely unrealistic. if sarr is going to be a 6 its more in the traditional CDM mould. loose touch is more detrimental higher up where its going to be in tighter spaces etc. i think sarr is a solid footballer, with elite physical attributes. he could screen the defence with them long legs and that energy like an absolute beast. hed be a dream for the CB's behind him.
sarr really is a CDM in a 4231. thats his real position and value on a football pitch. sarr and gray together would be very good.
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Low key becoming our player of the season