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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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wont happen...I dunno why your clinging to this - Ange isn't up to this level. You cannot neglect the defence and expect to succeed in England ffs. We all know the real culprit is the bald goblin but, Ange is a woeful manager at this level.
If the form improves? Well, it can't really get worse when you're 19th in the PL over the past 10 games.

The hole digging abilities amaze me.
 

'Dr Tottenham' cures Everton - but Postecoglou desperately needs a tonic​


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Match of the Day 2: What more can Postecoglou do?
Phil McNulty
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You really think we’d be 11th with a full squad plus Solanke?

We finished 5th without Solanke
oh ffs. Can't you see that there is a compounding effect going on?

The players haven't been properly coached now for 18 months.

Our only good players are those who have spent the least time under his horrible mis-management (Spence, Solanke, Gray, Bergvall).

We would be absolutely miles off 5th even with zero injuries.
 
I wouldn't I'd rather Sam Allerdyce at this point.
Would take big Sam over big Ange

I'd take David Pleat over Ange

I'd honestly be pretty close to taking Terry Venables over Ange and just letting the players manage themselves.

For the avoidance of doubt, I mean TV now, as opposed to when he was alive. Yes, it's a close call between a deceased competent manager and Ange.
 
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Wait, are you saying it wasn't a bad move to sell Keane and Berbatov at the end of the transfer window, replacing them both with Campbell and that had absolutely no affect what so ever? Or am I reading it wrong

I didn't say that. It was a terrible window.
But league cup aside, Ramos was an awful coach before they went.
10 wins from 28 games WITH Berbatov and Keane. That's probably why the pair of them left.
Redknapp sorted that shit show out in no time. Ramos did nothing of any significance thereafter.
Literally walked in the to Real Madrid job somehow for 6 months then was sacked, few menial jobs ever since and nothing for 9 years.
He was the epitome of a journeyman coach. 18 jobs, all of which were 1-2 year stints.
There were rumours that the time the only reason his Seville side did well was the structure above him. Levy, in his infinite wisdom, took the wrong part of the success at that club.

We're actually at a point now, where our last 8 aren't much worse than Ramos' either.
He has the famous 2 points from 8.
We have 4 from 8 games and the same number of losses.
In fact it's 4 points from 9 games. 5 from 10.
We really are as bad as we were when we sacked Ramos.

I bet even then there were some fans who backed him and wanted him to stay. Just nowhere near as many as the insane Angebois we have now.
 
oh ffs. Can't you see that there is a compounding effect going on?

The players haven't been properly coached now for 18 months.

Our only good players are those who have spent the least time under his horrible mis-management (Spence, Solanke, Gray, Bergvall).

We would be absolutely miles off 5th even with zero injuries.

We are SO uncoached. It's possibly why the players aren't kicking off. Most of them probably love it. It's probably easy stuff. All mates and bantah.
Bentley would come out of retirement for that.
 
oh ffs. Can't you see that there is a compounding effect going on?

The players haven't been properly coached now for 18 months.

Our only good players are those who have spent the least time under his horrible mis-management (Spence, Solanke, Gray, Bergvall).

We would be absolutely miles off 5th even with zero injuries.
The only compounding effect I see is fatigue leading to injuries leading to fatigue.
 
Well it’s nonsense in all directions as the people who have said he wasn’t up to it have been attacked and called gooners and not true fansfor months on end.

I think everyone here is a fan, and it’s winds me up no end when people on here get personal to each other - no need for it. Direct the anger at the club.
Bravo, my friend.

Quite a few on here just want it to be one-way traffic. Plenty fine when it comes to dishing it out, but they lose their shit the second some stick is thrown their way.
 
I understand not wanting to sack him after a 66 points/5th place finish, but they should still have been prepared for the possibility of a mid-season change before a ball was kicked this season. This kind of a total collapse was nearly impossible to envision, but alarm bells were still ringing to a considerable degree about Ange's long-term suitability for the job. 1 point from 5 matches after that Chelsea match, 4 match losing streak near the end of the season, struggles in breaking down low blocks and relying on last minute goals and comebacks to win against inferior teams on many occasions. These cannot simply be brushed away as hindsight.

United, despite him having a strong first season and winning a cup in his second season as well, pulled the plug on Ten Hag after 9 league matches, sitting with 11 points. We had 13 from our first 9. In a spell where we gave away a 2 goal lead against Brighton, and dropped 5 points against Leicester and Palace. Two weeks later, on Nov 10, we lost to another relegation fodder Ipswich at home. If they actually had a replacement plan ready, this would have been a great time to pull the plug on him. Everything to play for in the league, no injury excuse or any other mitigating factors in sight. Instead they put all their eggs in Ange basket, an injury crisis started appearing on the horizon, and the rest is history.

Even if they no longer believe in him, which might not even be the case by the way, we are in purgatory now. Probably too late in the context of the season to replace him with a permanent long-term successor, but also too early to throw the towel by going with Mason. If they ever plan on taking that route again that is.

Between him, Mason, and a rushed appointment from a limited number of available candidates, I can't see an easy way out. Pick your poison.
 
I didn't say that. It was a terrible window.
But league cup aside, Ramos was an awful coach before they went.
10 wins from 28 games WITH Berbatov and Keane. That's probably why the pair of them left.
Redknapp sorted that shit show out in no time. Ramos did nothing of any significance thereafter.
Literally walked in the to Real Madrid job somehow for 6 months then was sacked, few menial jobs ever since and nothing for 9 years.
He was the epitome of a journeyman coach. 18 jobs, all of which were 1-2 year stints.
There were rumours that the time the only reason his Seville side did well was the structure above him. Levy, in his infinite wisdom, took the wrong part of the success at that club.

We're actually at a point now, where our last 8 aren't much worse than Ramos' either.
He has the famous 2 points from 8.
We have 4 from 8 games and the same number of losses.
In fact it's 4 points from 9 games. 5 from 10.
We really are as bad as we were when we sacked Ramos.

I bet even then there were some fans who backed him and wanted him to stay. Just nowhere near as many as the insane Angebois we have now.

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Well it’s nonsense in all directions as the people who have said he wasn’t up to it have been attacked and called gooners and not true fansfor months on end.

I think everyone here is a fan, and it’s winds me up no end when people on here get personal to each other - no need for it. Direct the anger at the club.
The only Gooners I see here are the ones who want us relegated.
Those of us who want Ange out all want Spurs to get better, not continue spiraling out of the PL.
 
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