View: https://x.com/thespursexpress/status/1881738444910780548?s=46&t=Gc6HrWVZT0mtSXU7r8ZBIQ
More links with managers than players.
-
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
Transfers January Transfer Thread 24/25
- Thread starter Billy Bob mate
- Start date
Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports
View: https://x.com/thespursexpress/status/1881738444910780548?s=46&t=Gc6HrWVZT0mtSXU7r8ZBIQ
More links with managers than players.
We’ve signed up more marketing partners and music artists this transfer window than players. What a football club we now are!
And no hope of signing either.
I'm not sure where I sit in the debate that you and
dudu
are having. I guess it depends partly on what we mean by 'desperate' - bookies odds are normally at least relatively representative of reality, and you can currently get over 50/1 on us being relegated, so no one objective seriously thinks that is likely to happen... So whilst we all obviously want to improve, what specifically are we actually trying to do (or avoid)?I ask because
dudu
asks some very relevant questions. Assuming permanent long-term deals just to fill gaps for another 4-6 weeks makes little sense* , then we need to find loans to do a job for 4-6 weeks. There are a couple of obvious problems with that: Firstly, we would need to find players who are up for that, i.e. comfortable that they will have to push to keep a place after that, with the odds firmly stacked against them; then secondly, of course those loan players would need to come in and make an immediate impact, there is no point if it will take them 3 months to get up to speed, learn the system etc. That may indeed be possible - as already mentioned, VdV came in and was excellent immediately (though that was coming into a settled team...) - but it may be that 3 loans come in and, because they are not yet up to speed etc, they actually make us even worse (and before anyone says it, yes that is absolutely possible, terrible as our results have been this season, we've hardly ever been battered). So I do think we need to think about what is realistic and will genuinely improve us in the short term without being a noose around our necks in the long term...* obviously if we were to sign someone who is good enough to play regularly permanently then great, but I don't think that's what the two of you are discussing.
The only reason we're now desperate is because the summer window was so shoddy, and the recruitment team should have been working around the clock from the moment the summer window shut up til January 1st trying to identify targets to try and rectify that. We let senior pros go and only bought in one. Gray and Bergvall are great, they're going to be massive, but it's not fair to expect two 18 year olds to be the answer. Yes it's harder in January but not impossible, but sometimes the club just acts like it is impossible; the people with recruitment responsibilites need to earn their wages just like anyone else.
Yes, the injury list is chronic but even with everyone fully fit we should have been identifying targets to improve the team. We shouldn't just be looking for players to cover for injury, we should be looking for players to improve the starting XI so I'm not buying any excuse which involves our injured players coming back. We need more competition not just short term bodies.
Some January incomings take ages to settle, but not all. Deki and Bentancur may not have set the world alight in their first match if I recall but quickly became a key part of us finishing 4th that season.
That's just reading opinions on TFC and dressing it up as news, surely.
Wow!!!The Death of Tottenham Hotspur - World of Hotspur
Share This: When the final whistle descended at the Emirates last Wednesday, signaling the end of yet another dismal, ineffectual North London Derby performance, there was no rage, no anger, no bitterness. Just a collective shrug of indifference from a fanbase who knew exactly what was...worldofhotspur.com
Piece of art. The truth, nothing but the truth. How can anyone read that and disagree even with one small thing?
What a fantastic article. Pulls no punches and states the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Every Spurs fan should be forced to read through every word. And some then need to take a cold, hard look at themselves.
Airfixx
,
scarletjim
,
Top_Spur
etc... a penny for your thoughts?
Fairly incredible that in the last 3 windows to date we have signed 1 player over 21.
Dragusin 21
Bergvall 18
Gray 18
Yang 18
Odobert 19
Solanke 27
Kinsky 21
Dragusin 21
Bergvall 18
Gray 18
Yang 18
Odobert 19
Solanke 27
Kinsky 21
Quite the fallacy. We are not a consistent goal scoring machine who needs our CB back or a couple tweaks in midfield as you're implying. There is a tactical issue besides personnel issues. When we win we score a lot of goals; we tend to blow these specific teams apart. We have scored at least 3 goals in every single PL game we have won - no pragmatic 1-0's or 2-1's. In the 10/15 games we have failed to win, we also only registered a max of 1 goal; the exception of scoring 3 against a complacent Liverpool who took their foot off the pedal after we conceded 5 goals only makes this trend more conspicuous.
It's glaringly obvious we are a one trick pony of a team - when it works it works very well, besides that we're quite readable and play directly into certain mangers hands.
No to Mckenna unless we are in the Championship. I'd rather Iraola then Frank but either is a massive upgrade on Crocodile Dundee.
What it's all about, mate.
COYS, any fan with a brain.
I promise you, once the business is fully up to speed and self-sufficient, we'll plough everything and some into the team...and we will win trophies galore. Just a bit more understanding and patience, please. It's coming home. Meanwhile if you could help us by spending more, plenty more of your hard-earned money in tickets, merch, F&B and events, that'd be swell.
COYS, Daniel.
Probably the worst post in the history of 'The Fighting Cock'
I've read the first 20% or so, think that's enough to say that:Wow!!!
What a fantastic article. Pulls no punches and states the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Every Spurs fan should be forced to read through every word. And some then need to take a cold, hard look at themselves.
- This article does not belong in the transfer thread, it belongs in the ENIC / Levy thread.
- It is very obviously written in a wildly biased manner from someone who has opinions similar to your own, hence obviously you would love it - that's just echo chamber, it doesn't say or prove anything new. Can you really not see that?
- Naturally I would challenge much of what it says, and the conclusions it draws, but not in a way that would add anything new to the same conversations that have already happened thousands of times between hundreds of different people in the appropriate thread for it.
There you go, my thoughts as requested.
PS If you really want to discuss it in detail, I'd be happy to do that with you privately where the masses won't keep injecting with irrelevance - but if I recall, I offered you a good faith private conversation about 'all things ENIC' several years ago and you agreed to it on the forum, but then blocked me from messaging you. That offer still stands, and always will. I am always willing to accept that others have different opinions to mine, and I will always respect theirs if they respect mine, therefore am always happy to exchange and discuss differing views.
Stop reading interacting with people that do not support Spurs they are charlatans.
Not saying we don't need them.... but a fix will only be a fix it the player is actually worth it and I'm struggling to think of a player we could get on loan that would actually be worth it.
Also, a punt is not a fix its a punt.
A time of hope and optimism. Makes me want to cry.
I heard when we get the stadium sponsor sorted it will be a real game changer! Not long to go now, the finishing line is in sight, the glory days are close!!!!! We will rise together !!!!
Madness how we haven't signed a LCB/LB in this window. I understand buying quality attacking options is tough as proven by the RKM saga. But there is absolutely no excuse for not signing a LB/LCB. This should have been done 3 weeks ago! That along with a new GK were the two priority signings that had to happen early to give the team much needed relief. Udogie pulled his hammy and was confirmed out for 6 weeks before the window opened. Unforgivable and pure negligence how we haven't got someone in that position. The competition isn't that high for that position, if the scouting and Lange were doing their job they should have identified 3/4 targets and got one over the line weeks ago. Circus!