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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Doom Funk said:
We could lose 50 nil today and I still don't think Baldy will get off his arse and do anything
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That's not true.

He'll be straight on the engravers to put in a preorder of fake rolexes engraved with "congratulations on staying up" for the squad. Of course if we go down he can still flog them on eBay.

He'll also be preparing a "get your tickets for the relegation dogfight" promo

Unfair to say he won't do anything.
 
Maureen said:
Ok so he has rotated then why does everyone go on about Ange running players into the ground. If they have been rotated then they can’t be all on their last legs.
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It's become harder and harder to rotate as players have gotten injured.... Bentancur also got suspended then concussed....injuries have knock on effects.

Training methods? Playing style? I'm sure there is a mix of reasons in there but for the most part I think he rotated when he could.
 
Zomb said:
we’ve still got at least 21 games to go….poss 30’ish. it’s simply too early to decide on Ange. He’s made some shocking mistakes this season but i do sense he’s learning from them so there’s a world in which he turns this form around and it ends well. If that happens eg we adapt tactics, win games and find form in the PL and win a cup (ideally Europa) , I don’t see him moving on.

Either way, I hope we are brave and make the best decision regardless of a cup win. Changing coach post season shouldn’t be seen as a terrifying, nuclear option. Coaches quickly get fatigued with the club and Levy so making a change could be in everyone’s interests (including Ange)
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If a 59 year old with decades of experience in football still has lessons to learn he's not cut out for this level. It's clear as day the experience he's had up to now does not measure up to the job he's taken on and it's in his and everyone's best interests that we part ways, by the end of the season at the very latest.
 
dudu said:
It's become harder and harder to rotate as players have gotten injured.... Bentancur also got suspended then concussed....injuries have knock on effects.

Training methods? Playing style? I'm sure there is a mix of reasons in there but for the most part I think he rotated when he could.
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Why wasn't Reggie & Spence used earlier in the season at least the FBs could have been rotated, they have only been used when the manager was forced to use them (that is bad management)
rotating forwards for youth players can happen when safe in games, BUT we are never safe in games because of how this guy plays SO again its his faut we can't rest players
 
rusty said:
Why wasn't Reggie & Spence used earlier in the season at least the FBs could have been rotated, they have only been used when the manager was forced to use them (that is bad management)
rotating forwards for youth players can happen when safe in games, BUT we are never safe in games because of how this guy plays SO again its his faut we can't rest players
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In terms of rotation, this is the only thing I'll agree with - he should have done a far better job utilising the full backs better.
 
Mostly wrong said:
If a 59 year old with decades of experience in football still has lessons to learn he's not cut out for this level. It's clear as day the experience he's had up to now does not measure up to the job he's taken on and it's in his and everyone's best interests that we part ways, by the end of the season at the very latest.
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I'm not sure I totally agree, every day is a school day for everyone. Or at least it should be.
 
Maureen said:
Come on one CF starter missing? Lots of teams will have at least a couple of players missing now and then. Anyways think it was only our 3rd game of the season so barely much time to see he was a big miss. Anyway we still lost.
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What do you mean one CF starter missing? We play with 1 striker...he was injured and the backup was injured as well, stop playing stupid.

You're hilarious you said we have gone from having a full team to saying it was only our 3rd game so barely much time to see he was a big miss, what? :confused:

Absolute nonsense
 
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rusty said:
Why wasn't Reggie & Spence used earlier in the season at least the FBs could have been rotated, they have only been used when the manager was forced to use them (that is bad management)
rotating forwards for youth players can happen when safe in games, BUT we are never safe in games because of how this guy plays SO again its his faut we can't rest players
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Reguilon has played less than 100 minutes in a season we have had injuries like never seen before.

The worst the manager has ever seen in terms of injuries and players available to him.
Absolute bare bones. 16 games over January and Feb.

He’s not a kid. This is a senior player. Total joke he was even in the squad. This club is done for.

Yet the club have the gall to up ticket prices and take away concessions!!
 
dudu said:
This is not the narrative most fans have been pushing whilst we were finishing top 6 and not winning things.

Non stop trophy cabinet jokes... winning trophies is one of the biggest sticking points have win our owners..

Teams have shit seasons..... they can come back from that and no one really cares.

When we were unbeaten at the start of the league last year fans were absolutely fuming at how we went out the cup to Fulham and I've also seen you say how shit it was we did as well as loding to city.

You seemed pretty passionate about that if I remember correctly. Why?
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We’re talking about whether Ange keeps his job. If you think these owners consider a league cup + 15th place as worth keeping him on, then no. I’d celebrate a league cup but it wouldn’t make me convinced by Ange because bad managers fluke cups all the time. Di Matteo won a CL + FA cup double.

Ange will keep his job only if there is a serious upturn in overall form. Not if we fluke a league cup and bomb in everything else.

Cups matter. The league cup matters least of all of them. It won’t save any coaches job if that’s all he offers.

I am annoyed by all losses and shit performances no matter the competition. I can also raise our terrible performance in terms of trophies while also not expecting us to fall to bottom half whilst winning a league cup. Neither is a positive outcome.
 
rusty said:
Why wasn't Reggie & Spence used earlier in the season at least the FBs could have been rotated, they have only been used when the manager was forced to use them (that is bad management)
rotating forwards for youth players can happen when safe in games, BUT we are never safe in games because of how this guy plays SO again its his faut we can't rest players
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I showed very clearly we did rest players so I'm not sure what you mean?

No manager makes 11 changes between games.... especially bot all 4 defenders. If he did and we lost he would get hammered for doing so.
 
Shadydan said:
That defensive line was hilarious
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That’s the thing with high lines, if you don’t get the pressure on the ball right, they always look hilarious.

They are high risk, but statistically highly effective.

What’s truly hilarious to me is how easily Spurs fans got sucked into a narrative about Ange’s high line being unique to him and naive. Just because of one game against Chelsea when we had 9 men and he was clearly trying to implement a new mentality at the club.
 
Deuterz said:
We’re talking about whether Ange keeps his job. If you think these owners consider a league cup + 15th place as worth keeping him on, then no. I’d celebrate a league cup but it wouldn’t make me convinced by Ange because bad managers fluke cups all the time. Di Matteo won a CL + FA cup double.

Ange will keep his job only if there is a serious upturn in overall form. Not if we fluke a league cup and bomb in everything else.

Cups matter. The league cup matters least of all of them. It won’t save any coaches job if that’s all he offers.

I am annoyed by all losses and shit performances no matter the competition. I can also raise our terrible performance in terms of trophies while also not expecting us to fall to bottom half whilst winning a league cup. Neither is a positive outcome.
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If we win the league cup, we’ll have beaten Man UTD, Man City, Liverpool, and Newcastle or Woolwich. That would be as far from fluking a cup as you can possibly get.

Fluking a cup is getting a friendly draw all the way to the final and winning a one off game.
 
Deuterz said:
We’re talking about whether Ange keeps his job. If you think these owners consider a league cup + 15th place as worth keeping him on, then no. I’d celebrate a league cup but it wouldn’t make me convinced by Ange because bad managers fluke cups all the time. Di Matteo won a CL + FA cup double.

Ange will keep his job only if there is a serious upturn in overall form. Not if we fluke a league cup and bomb in everything else.

Cups matter. The league cup matters least of all of them. It won’t save any coaches job if that’s all he offers.

I am annoyed by all losses and shit performances no matter the competition. I can also raise our terrible performance in terms of trophies while also not expecting us to fall to bottom half whilst winning a league cup. Neither is a positive outcome.
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Do I think ange should keep his job if we finish bottom half? No, i don't.

Even if he wins the League Cup... yeah, again no.

But it would still be a very fucking good achievement to win any cup for us and he would absolutely get my kudos for that.
 
Richard Arlison said:
If we win the league cup, we’ll have beaten Man UTD, Man City, Liverpool, and Newcastle or Woolwich. That would be as far from fluking a cup as you can possibly get.

Fluking a cup is getting a friendly draw all the way to the final and winning a one off game.
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True.

I still feel that our 2008 league cup win was hard earned, beating the gooners and Chelsea. We certainly didn't coast it that season.
 
WillWilliams said:
Reguilon has played less than 100 minutes in a season we have had injuries like never seen before.

The worst the manager has ever seen in terms of injuries and players available to him.
Absolute bare bones. 16 games over January and Feb.

He’s not a kid. This is a senior player. Total joke he was even in the squad. This club is done for.

Yet the club have the gall to up ticket prices and take away concessions!!
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reggie Cant pick himself to play, Only one person that picks the team (the manager) he could have used both spence & Reggie earlier in season but he didn't thats on him
I'm not saying Reggie is the best LB out there but using him a few times MAY have stopped Udogie from being injuried THAT is down to this manager can't you see that
 
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