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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

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So Eddie Howe dismantled Woolwich with a low-block 5-4-1 today. Second final for him in three years, as well as a Champions League campaign, and they're currently on track for another one next season. Funny what you can achieve with a bit of pragmatism once in a while.
This was from the match report

“The hosts were exceptional from start to finish, lulling Woolwich into their trap and springing the press, forcing repeated defensive mistakes from a traditionally stout Gunners’ back line. William Saliba in particular had a nightmare performance, continually harassed by both Gordon and Alexander Isak.”

Pressing? Forcing repeated defensive mistakes? 2 goals (including 1 ruled out)? does that sound like low block to you?
 
Such waffle.

Teams much better than us that frequently employ a low or mid-block tactic over the past 2 seasons:

Woolwich
Newcastle
Villa

Outside England:

Atletico
Inter
Bayern

Eh? Villa play a high line even more "suicidal" than ours. It's why we regularly thrash them.

And Bayern may have briefly played a bit deeper under Tuchel but they won fuck all, sacked him, and now Vincent Kompany of all people has taken his Burnley style and has them top.

You make some decent points sometimes but fuck me you also make some very bizarre and completely wrong examples. Very strange.

Like the general point that low or midblock teams can be successful is a good one. But using Villa and Bayern as examples? What are you smoking?
 
Mourinho and Conte both had players who talked positively about them, and it is not unusual for managers to help in recruiting. Credit where it is due, Postecoglou appears to be liked by players. That has not, so far, translated into wins. Also worth noting that Romero appears, by most accounts, open to leaving.
lol. He’s been set on Real Madrid. This is the least surprising news for a South American player playing in a team that is not Man City or Liverpool.
 
This was from the match report

“The hosts were exceptional from start to finish, lulling Woolwich into their trap and springing the press, forcing repeated defensive mistakes from a traditionally stout Gunners’ back line. William Saliba in particular had a nightmare performance, continually harassed by both Gordon and Alexander Isak.”

Pressing? Forcing repeated defensive mistakes? 2 goals (including 1 ruled out)? does that sound like low block to you?
Well done for being able to read a match report. Shame you didn't understand it. Let me help you out.

Whenever Woolwich had the ball in settled possession, Newcastle sat off them in a very deep block 5-4-1, as such:

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Notice there's not much pressure on Partey, with Tonali and Gordon both standing off him. Weird high press they're deploying? That's cos it isn't one. It's a low block 5-4-1, just like I said in my original comment. If you look closely you can even see the 5, the 4, and the 1. (Hint: you're looking at the ones in the black and white shirts)

When the match report talks about "lulling Woolwich into their trap and springing the press, forcing repeated defensive mistakes from a traditionally stout Gunners’ back line", they're still talking about a low block, but with pressing triggers. Specifically when Woolwich would make a mistake, or a certain type of pass - usually backwards - that would trigger players like Isak and Gordon to press them.

But that's completely standard; even super-low block teams like Nottingham Forest will have pressing triggers. Nobody thinks that low block means you just stand there like lemons all game; "low block" is merely a reference to where on the pitch the team is set up to defend. Is the defensive line high, on the half-way line? Or is it deep, in their own half? As you can clearly see above, it's deep in their own half. Spoiler: it's a low block.

Unfortunately people like you see the word "press" in the match report and think "hah! it wasn't a low block after all!" No. It was. You just don't understand football.

Weirdly you then suggest the fact Newcastle scored two goals was more evidence they didn't defend in a low block? As if the mere fact of scoring on the counter negates the idea they could be defending deep? I can't be bothered to go any further on that one.

So yes, it was a low block. Yes, Newcastle players pressed Woolwich players. No, you don't understand football. No, I'm not interested in your response.
 
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Well done for being able to read a match report. Shame you didn't understand it. Let me help you out.

Whenever Woolwich had the ball in settled possession, Newcastle sat off them in a very deep block 5-4-1, as such:

I8MCjpJ.jpeg


Notice there's not much pressure on Partey, with Tonali and Gordon both standing off him. Weird high press they're deploying? That's cos it isn't one. It's a low block 5-4-1, just like I said in my original comment. If you look closely you can even see the 5, the 4, and the 1. (Hint: you're looking at the ones in the black and white shirts)

When the match report talks about "lulling Woolwich into their trap and springing the press, forcing repeated defensive mistakes from a traditionally stout Gunners’ back line", they're still talking about a low block, but with pressing triggers. Specifically when Woolwich would make a mistake, or a certain type of pass - usually backwards - that would trigger players like Isak and Gordon to press them.

But that's completely standard; even super-low block teams like Nottingham Forest will have pressing triggers. Nobody thinks that low block means you just stand there like lemons all game; "low block" is merely a reference to where on the pitch the team is set up to defend. Is the defensive line high, on the half-way line? Or is it deep, in their own half? As you can clearly see above, it's deep in their own half. Spoiler: it's a low block.

Unfortunately people like you see the word "press" in the match report and think "hah! it wasn't a low block after all!" No. It was. You just don't understand football.

Weirdly you then suggest the fact Newcastle scored two goals was more evidence they didn't defend in a low block? As if the mere fact of scoring on the counter negates the idea they could be defending deep? I can't be bothered to go any further on that one.

So yes, it was a low block. Yes, Newcastle players pressed Woolwich players. No, you don't understand football. No, I'm not interested in your response.

I'm glad I've had you on ignore for months, and you'll go straight back to it. Such a negative person.

Newcastles second goal came from a high press from the keepers kick. It's more than a pressing trigger, it's a high press, man for man with 5 Newcastle players in the attacking half.

Yes they then transitioned to a low block when the ball was closer to the halfway line, sometimes a 5-4-1, sometimes a 4-4-2.

Football is fluid, so are formations, so are tactics.

Try saying 5 nice things for every negative thing you say or think, might change your life. Anyway, bye for now.
 
I8MCjpJ.jpeg


Notice there's not much pressure on Partey, with Tonali and Gordon both standing off him. Weird high press they're deploying? That's cos it isn't one. It's a low block 5-4-1, just like I said in my original comment. If you look closely you can even see the 5, the 4, and the 1. (Hint: you're looking at the ones in the black and white shirts)

When the match report talks about "lulling Woolwich into their trap and springing the press, forcing repeated defensive mistakes from a traditionally stout Gunners’ back line", they're still talking about a low block, but with pressing triggers. Specifically when Woolwich would make a mistake, or a certain type of pass - usually backwards - that would trigger players like Isak and Gordon to press them.

But that's completely standard; even super-low block teams like Nottingham Forest will have pressing triggers. Nobody thinks that low block means you just stand there like lemons all game; "low block" is merely a reference to where on the pitch the team is set up to defend. Is the defensive line high, on the half-way line? Or is it deep, in their own half? As you can clearly see above, it's deep in their own half. Spoiler: it's a low block.

Unfortunately people like you see the word "press" in the match report and think "hah! it wasn't a low block after all!" No. It was. You just don't understand football.

Weirdly you then suggest the fact Newcastle scored two goals was more evidence they didn't defend in a low block? As if the mere fact of scoring on the counter negates the idea they could be defending deep? I can't be bothered to go any further on that one.

So yes, it was a low block. Yes, Newcastle players pressed Woolwich players. No, you don't understand football. No, I'm not interested in your response.

Oh look everybody, he knows how to post images on the interwebs. What a guy!


Notice there's 7 Newcastle players in the Woolwich half, pressing the defenders and ready to press the midfielders. In fact if you watch the video the Newcastle shirt in the middle (red circle) sprints up the field in order to press. You don't actually know what a low block is. It just isn't what happens in your own half defensive half, it's a whole of pitch strategy. In this situation, should Woolwich beat the press, then the counter attack is on. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF LOW BLOCK!
But but but.. even if I was to concede it was low block (which it was not), the moment Newcastle scored, they go 3 goals up, and there is a strong argument to simply park the bus. What circumstances have Tottenham warranted doing this at all this season? They have only lost from being two goals ahead twice this season, and the game against Chelsea they gave up 62% of possession.

So no, it was not low block. Do I understand football? Hell no. Do you? Fuck no. I am interested in your response? Yes, because it's fun watching your embarrass yourself.
 
Oh look everybody, he knows how to post images on the interwebs. What a guy!


Notice there's 7 Newcastle players in the Woolwich half, pressing the defenders and ready to press the midfielders. In fact if you watch the video the Newcastle shirt in the middle (red circle) sprints up the field in order to press. You don't actually know what a low block is. It just isn't what happens in your own half defensive half, it's a whole of pitch strategy. In this situation, should Woolwich beat the press, then the counter attack is on. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF LOW BLOCK!
But but but.. even if I was to concede it was low block (which it was not), the moment Newcastle scored, they go 3 goals up, and there is a strong argument to simply park the bus. What circumstances have Tottenham warranted doing this at all this season? They have only lost from being two goals ahead twice this season, and the game against Chelsea they gave up 62% of possession.

So no, it was not low block. Do I understand football? Hell no. Do you? Fuck no. I am interested in your response? Yes, because it's fun watching your embarrass yourself.

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Not sure what most of you guys are on this forum for, with all your knowledge you all should be managing a PL Team. FFS
I was offered the Spurs Gig when the 312th manager turned us down a couple of summers ago

Unfortunately the club were unwilling to match my salary expectations so I had to decline

They moved onto the next 47 candidates and eventually landed on Ange
 
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