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Management Ange Postecoglou
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Narrator: He wasn't done for the season...
No don't agree with that at all.
Ange was the one that specifically wanted young players and pushed for us to get them. He got what he wanted and we spent shitloads on these players.
Conte didn't get any of the players he wanted bar Perisic (and maybe Richi but that's debatable) . He got Lenglet on loan over Bastoni, he clearly didn't ask for Bissouma, he wanted a proven right wing back and Levy insisted on Spence, Kulu and Bentancur were Paratici punts from his former club and he wanted another attacking player and got Danjuma on loan. It didnt even look like he really wanted Romero either.
Not comparable at all.
100%. I will watch the Europa League (which we will likely be dumped out of immediately) but as long as Ange is here I won’t be watching another league game.
I genuinely mean it and anybody who knows me knows that I won’t be flip flopping on this, you can quote me on that mate.
I guarantee outside of the Europa League games, I am done as long as this buffoon is still our manager.
I am not rewarding incompetence with my time.
In fairness Conte plays park the bus/terrorist football with little pressing, no high line, and alot less intensity … so not as much need for rotation … Conte’s football is terrible to watch and makes you want to kill yourself but that’s a different issue.
I don’t disagree with that but the same way Ange wanted Gallagher, Eze and Neto.
The fact that he was pushing to go with young players when those transfers couldn’t happen is the gamble that is costing him atm.
You watching EL even if it’s Ange coaching them?
Players run way more in terms of distances playing that type of football because they are constantly chasing shadows. Less sprints, more load on the joints. Like sprint training vs marathon training. Muscle injuries or joint and ligament injuries, you just pick your poison. Professional sport is bad for the human body either way.
The idea that one is less intense than the other is context free, narrative soup.
Conte wasnt as dependent on high octane out of possession and high octane in possession.
Rotation while needed isnt as necessary as Anges system
Only played like that at Spurs most his other teams are quite good to watch.
Only for the very slim possibility that I may see the club I love win a trophy by sheer luck and fortune.
But when it comes to the PL, why would I waste the very finite time I have as a human on this planet watching some charlatan grifter drag the club I love into the meat grinder?
It’s just sadomasochism at this point and rewarding incompetence, I am done thinking he will turn some imaginary corner, we both know damn well that isn’t going to happen.
Definitely agree gallagher would have suited us with running power , Neto would be out injured and hasnt lit chelsea up much and eze's form has dropped off a cliff but theres a chance he might have prospered here
Clement the Rangers boss just oversaw a humiliating exit from the cup against Queens Park.
He will get fired imminently, should be right up cheapskate Levy’s strassa.
He will get fired imminently, should be right up cheapskate Levy’s strassa.
It’s also about timing with managers and especially the guy after Ange. We have a youth build now, so Ange aside the timing of the manager coming in is very important.
Look at Chelsea, they got Potter and sold like 20 players and bought 20 players, a total and utter shitshow. The next summer they bought a load more and got Poch. Wasn’t till the very end of the season that Chelsea played really good football and won lots of games. Poch then fell out with Egbail apparently and they got Merasca and he was Chelsea’s first manager with a settled well drilled squad. Chelsea are now actually getting worse again. Merasca might be a worse manager than Potter or Poch but he started in a vastly better position than either of them.
My point is we at least have a bunch of really talented young players, Vuskovic will be coming in the summer, maybe Donley and Yang to come back along side an ever improving Bergvall, Gray and Moore. The fruits of this might not be till next season or the season after so the timing of the new manager and the players growing could make or break us. Would getting Iraloa with a fit team at the start of next season be the right match and the right timing?
Look at Chelsea, they got Potter and sold like 20 players and bought 20 players, a total and utter shitshow. The next summer they bought a load more and got Poch. Wasn’t till the very end of the season that Chelsea played really good football and won lots of games. Poch then fell out with Egbail apparently and they got Merasca and he was Chelsea’s first manager with a settled well drilled squad. Chelsea are now actually getting worse again. Merasca might be a worse manager than Potter or Poch but he started in a vastly better position than either of them.
My point is we at least have a bunch of really talented young players, Vuskovic will be coming in the summer, maybe Donley and Yang to come back along side an ever improving Bergvall, Gray and Moore. The fruits of this might not be till next season or the season after so the timing of the new manager and the players growing could make or break us. Would getting Iraloa with a fit team at the start of next season be the right match and the right timing?
Centre of the pitch is wide open as per usual, so let's try to figure out how that happened this time. Bergvall is pressing high while Tel is also trying to help him, so how they're positioned and what they're doing make sense. But why is Bentancur covering LB, which opens up the centre? Because our LB Spence, for whatever reason, is even higher up the pitch than LW (Tel). Our RB (Porro) is not in a much better position himself, standing inside the centre circle next to #41. If the guy on the ball gets away from Bergvall and also avoids Tel on the way, which is quite routine stuff for players at this level, then there's a massive space to exploit. Let's see;
He's away, so the scramble starts.
From this point on it's a straigtforward pass to #41 for a clear cut chance. Danso is occupied with another runner (#17) himself so he can't possibly cover #41, and there's nobody else in the close vicinity.
#41 will receive the pass, and have his 1v1 attempt saved by Kinsky afterwards.
I don't feel like doing this anymore, as the point should be obvious to anyone. Our team defense hangs by a thread regardless of the scoreline, time, personnel, or any other possibly relevant variable. It's this way by design.
nope, not gonna happen
Anges tactics:
In possession “Charge”
Out of possession “Charge” into a press, the trigger being any turnover.
In defence “Charge” usually back as we are soo out of structural shape.
Then, when the players show ability to adapt a little against Brentford, we can’t build on it, so we go back to “Charge”.
In possession “Charge”
Out of possession “Charge” into a press, the trigger being any turnover.
In defence “Charge” usually back as we are soo out of structural shape.
Then, when the players show ability to adapt a little against Brentford, we can’t build on it, so we go back to “Charge”.
Would he amazed if he's fired today.
Think he'll get the Utd game, lose and he's gone. Win and he'll be given the Ipswich game.